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[Major Depression]

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by roxxfan, Mar 29, 2012.

  1. across110thstreet

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    the constant weed smoking all day would concern me, wouldn't it also put a Texas resident in danger of his child being taken away if prosecuted?

    that's for another debate, but I have read about pot causing psychotic-like episodes for someone who is predispositioned to schizophrenic behaviors and tendencies. I have seen a good friend in a bad mental state lock himself in a room with nothing but weed and literature- he came out in a strait jacket :(

    seek all the help you can get though. whatever works, I guess.
     
  2. Bandwagoner

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    Yeah my bad, smoking drugs has seemed to work out well for you. I'm sure no good could come from change.
     
  3. Warning-Sign

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    I seem to have lost my faith in God/religion and I have failed at many things, But I still have my education and career to look forward to. I used to ridicule those with depression, the same way Swoly-d did but after I experienced depression for myself last summer, I now see how burdensome and overwhelming it is, and how real it is. One of my biggest problems is thinking that most people are super happy, while the opposite is actually true. I am also petty, not realizing that I have what is important. So the only advice I can think of is: be strong and accomplish as much as you can. Take comfort in knowing that someone will be proud of you.
     
  4. roxxfan

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    Really? Really? Drug use stimulates chemical matter in the brain, and that achieves the "high feeling." This definitely can be a factor with depression and anxiety, because the brain was stimulated unnaturally. Yes. Change will be good and will aid in treatment and recovery process. Depression is defined as a chemical imbalance, so needless to stay drug use plays a significant role.
     
  5. Another Brother

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    Your writing style is really cool. :)

    Unless you've been there nobody can truly understand that black hole, but I'm a living witness Htown that it DOES GET BETTER.

    Realize that the people around you wouldn't be them if you weren't you! You are absolutely here for a reason, and once you defeat this demon imagine how much you'll be able to share with the world what you learned in spite of this crippling illness. I embrace the quirks in my personality that made me an outcast. The loser mentality I once had has been replaced with how I mentally position my social awkwardness. I'm not them, but they aren't me either.

    You were chosen to conquer, I swear it's true. Keep fighting Htown, you are DESTINED to win.
     
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  6. Bandwagoner

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    You must have missed someone calling my suggestion to quit smoking drugs bad advice. Thus missing the sarcasm.
     
  7. Htown's2kFinest

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    dunno if you are being sarcastic but thanks dude ('
     
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  8. Another Brother

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    Not at all! Contribute more to conversations here!
     
  9. DonnyMost

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    This screams "I have no idea what I'm talking about" to me.

    Can you explain to us how he's going to feel better by stopping smoking (mar1juana)?

    Moes, hit me up if you need to talk man.
     
  10. sammy

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    How do you know that his trouble didn't start way before he started smoking herb? I'm almost certain it has nothing to do with what Moes is going through right now.
     
  11. Bandwagoner

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    I'm not going line by line on symptoms and pick someone apart that just wrote a desperation or whatever post.


    This thread has been ridiculous from the first page and instead of defend myself by piecing together facts I barely remember of person in a bad spot I will just say this kind of talk "I smoke cigarettes and weed constantly, they give me release." is worrisome.
     
  12. DonnyMost

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    That's not what I asked you to do.

    Look, if you don't know what you're talking about, don't act so incredulous when people question the advice you give. What you told him to do sounds dangerous and way you went about justifying it screams amateur hour psychologist mixed with weed boogie-man nonsense.
     
  13. Bandwagoner

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    OK fine. He feels like his career is not going well, he seems to have problems with relationships and irritability. Smoking drugs and cigarettes constantly to feel normal is such a trap because you will never reach normal in constant withdrawal cycle. This isn't groundbreaking.
     
  14. v3.0

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    I have this song in my head while reading through this thread.

    <iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/S3pvKyd7l_c" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  15. FranchiseBlade

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    AT least somebody got something good out of this thread. That's a great song.
     
  16. Batman Jones

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    I'm sorry to hear all that, Manny. If I remember right, when you first sought treatment you were using meds from a GP but not seeing a therapist or psychiatrist. Is that the case now?

    Depression always feels permanent and maybe it will be, but if you haven't tried therapy yet it's certainly not a sure bet that you'll deal with it the rest of your life.

    Regarding Xanax, it is not a medication to treat depression. It is more likely to cause depression than cure it, because it's only purpose is to calm you down, immediately, and from very bad panic. Benzos are good for treating anxiety and panic but it is the very rare case that needs to be on one as powerful, dangerous, and dopey-making as Xanax. Xanax is also just about as addictive as a drug gets.

    If you are taking Xanax to treat depression, you need a new doctor. But, also, if you are taking medication for depression or anxiety or any other mood thing and aren't under the observation of a psychiatrist you're not giving yourself a chance to get well. If you are not in therapy you really aren't giving yourself a chance.

    Regarding the sleeping... Depression can make you want to sleep all day and often does. But taking Xanax in the morning is a pretty sure way to sleep all day. What dose?

    When I was a recreational drug user, Xanax was what we took to come down off of cocaine. It was a knockout pill and whenever I took it (I used to take a bar - 2mg) I slept the sleep of the dead for at least 12 hours and was in a dreary fog for another 24 hours after.

    Take it easy with that stuff, man.
     
  17. Batman Jones

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    That was a very kind post, ATW. I didn't really see the day coming that I would see the message 'must spread more rep before giving to ATW again' but it just went and happened.

    Color me tickled.
     
  18. moestavern19

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    I don't smoke weed all day, Jesus. Just a couple of tokes in the evening which relaxes me and helps me sleep. I don't need to constantly be high if that's what you think. I quit drinking for the most part because you cannot do that with a child around. The cigs have been an off again on again cycle. I always start back up when the going gets tough.

    I think you are right Casey, but I have an extremely addictive personality. Yup, thats another fun characteristic of a person with brain chemical imbalance. The way I see it is that weed is about the less-est of the evils I could get into. I also realize its not healthy to have addictions, again... I'd rather not use it as a crutch, but it is what it is.

    It doesn't help that my wife was in a relationship prior to me with a dude who would pop 40 vicodin a day behind her back. She's terrified of me going on any medications.

    I just really hit a rough patch this past week with my wife and I both losing our jobs again. Just when we had some money saved up to possibly rent a house in a nice part of town, now its nailed back down to the ghetto.

    This is what I did today after posting that diatribe.

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  19. SuperBeeKay

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    smoking mar1juana longterm has effects for memory and emotion.
     
  20. Batman Jones

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    Let me clarify my remarks about CaseyH's bad advice a bit.

    I do not think mar1juana is typically good for depression or agitation. I think it can be a good pain reliever and it has various other medicinal properties, but if medicine is needed it might not be the best frontline medication in dealing with a mood problem.

    It can make you more depressed, it can make you harder on yourself, make you question yourself and answer yourself more unfavorably, it can murder your self-esteem, make you paranoid and, yes, if your condition is the wrong one, it could even be the last straw on the road to psychosis. But it can also be a great reliever of stress or anxiety. People react to it very differently and the very same person will likely find he reacts differently to it at one age than at another. It can make you more social and it can make you anti-social. It can make you laugh or relax when those things weren't otherwise possible.

    If pot were legal it would be one more in a series of psychiatric medications that works well for some and is disastrous for others. The same is true of every anti-depressant and every other head med. Every anti-depressant comes with a warning that it may cause severe depression and suicidality along with all the other potential side effects. Pot is almost exactly like that. Great or good for some, bad or terrible for others. The only real difference, beyond its (ridiculous) illegality, is that it is never physically addictive (some anti-depressants are) and it is all-natural.

    It would surprise me if CaseyH never drinks alcohol. Maybe he doesn't, but if he does he is messing with a far worse, far more dangerous, far more ruinous drug than mar1juana.

    Still, what moes is doing now isn't working for him and, being at the end of his rope, he needs a change.

    But...

    When someone is at the end of his rope, when he is in crisis you don't take away the only thing that might be providing relief. That's like advising an alcoholic that asks for help in finding the nearest AA meeting that what he really needs to do is quit smoking so many cigarettes.

    Should moes quit weed? Maybe. I have no idea. Should he quit it now? Definitely not.

    What he should do now is see a therapist and a psychiatrist, both.

    Now back to moes:

    If you can't afford to see both kinds of doctors and I mean right away, I would happily pay for your first consult/session, with a therapist and with a psychiatrist. I'm not well off and I don't have a large savings but I have some and I can afford that. Anyway there isn't any better use of money than pitching in a little on helping a friend through a time of desperation. PM me, text, write or call if I can help.
     

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