Obviously you can find morals without religion. To say otherwise would imply what is morally right or wrong is just whatever God chose to make so.
Ooh another thing could be with the "Muslim controversy" Obama had. I think that may make liberals think less about him being a christian. I can't think of a way to explain but perhaps since the majority of "Obama" "religion" searches come up with Muslim conspiracy theories, the fact he is actually a christian becomes somewhat of an after thought.
I thought this was a country founded on the principle that you can believe or not believe in anything, why should it matter what he believe or not believe in anything? Sad state at the present time in this country.
People are entitled to prioritize the issues that matter to them for presidents. Fiscal conservatives mostly don't care either about what Obama believes from a religious standpoint. I'm of the belief that our government has the duty to protect the rights and beliefs of both the majority and minority religions, including those who have no belief. Therefore, when I see politicians who want to change existing policies to favor their belief system, I tend to frown upon them. Most people want to just be left alone by government. Our world has a long history of religious discrimination by government entities. Putting a religious stamp on policy goes against American ideals.
Well in our two party system, Christians will be voting for a Mormon but I don't think that is the case with Obama and dems. I think it is more than that and not seen as a negative at all due to a variety of factors.
I didn't follow politics much at the time but didn't Bush take major heat for praying about decisions? I don't think there is any valid way to put this all on social conservatives. That is the exact opposite of Bill Maher.
I'm a big believer that being a true Christian is not about always going to churches or say the word God every other sentence during stump speeches. It's about how a person lives his/her own life. What they do in office. For this reason, I think most politicians in Washington aren't "true believers." I don't care if they grew up in a neighborhood where everyone goes to church and can recite the bible backward. None of that matters as much as truly living moral a life in a way that Jesus would be proud of.
That is why I say this is a sad state for this country. Do believers make better leaders? I doubt it, people should be asking questions that make a person a better leader.
I kinda agree but I feel that just being moral doesn't mean you are christian. As I stated earlier, I think you can find morals without religion. I don't think so because MadMax says no one is sure his religion but does know he has a a firm grasp of morals.
Actually, I'm more saying that being immoral means you're not a true Christian. Maybe I just have a lower standard, but I feel anyone who believe in Jesus and live a life following the virtues that Jesus laid out for us, then he's a true believer. And that organized religion has truly taken away the basic essence of what Christianity is all about.
don't wanna speak for max but one can exhibit christian values without knowing god or even while denying his existence.
Please don't turn this into a religious debate. To bring it back to topic, Obama's morals are really irrelevant. Your standard would mean the more someone sins, the less Christian they are which goes against everything I understand about Christianity. We are talking past each other because I said something similar in reply to max. But I would substitute "christian values" with "morals" or just say have morals similar to Christians.
What makes a Christian? Going to church every week? Donate to the church? Saying prayers? If you do not follow the ways of Jesus, you are only paying lip service to him. Hitler says he is a Christian, do you think the way he acted make him a Christian?
Sinning does not preclude you from being a christian. I don't know why you want to slippery slope this tangent.
