Would Dragic be playing this well if he was extended?

God damn it Morey please break the rule this once and just extend Dragic...

 

I 100% agree, he will be an All-Star.

 

Very good way of putting it (& making me feel better about most likely not having him on the team next year.)

 

Every week someone suggests Dragic can't sustain his play. And every week Dragic gets better. He is playing smarter with more confidence every game. So rather than ask can he sustain it I think a better question would be what's his ceiling.

Can he be as good as Steve Nash. Right now he is 2 years younger than Steve Nash was when Mark Cuban made the most regrettable mistake as an owner of not re-signing him. Nash wasn't putting up numbers as good then as Dragic is as a starter now.

It's specualation but given the starting sample it seems very likely Dragic won't just sustain his play but will get better. Letting Dragic walk away for nothing will be a setback for this franchise. What is the point of acquiring assets if you let them walk away for nothing. If they knew they could or would not re-sign Dragic they should have traded him at the deadline.

The funny thing is Morey said one of the reasons he traded Brooks is because they weren't prepared to pay for 2 starting point guards. Now they will have to pay even more for Dragic, a second starting point guard and he will cost even more than Brooks to keep.

The problem is after trading Dragic and showing him he wasn't a part of their future plans Morey clearly showed loyalty was not a part of his motive. So why should Dragic return any loyalty. No matter what Morey says nothing will convince Dragic that he will not be traded if the price is right.

In fact Goran knows Morey has to trade him or Lowry at some point to improve the team. And to get Goran to stay he almost has to be promised it won't be him. Again why would Goran beleive it.

The only thing we have going for us is he likes the players and McHale and right now he would prefer to stay here. Once the season is over expect Bill Duffy to advise him, "forget about those warm fuzzy feelings you have for Houston. They are not looking to build around you. They have Lowry and already have shown how desperately they want to keep Lowry over you. Do you really want to stay with Houston when you know at some point they will trade you?".

My hope is Goran will want to play here more than anywhere else irregardless of past history of management. But with Portland and others offering the world and a guaranteed starting role it will be a hard sale. Morey has to take some blame for creating this problem. If we lose Goran it is on him. If he does retain Goran then Morey deserves a lot of praise. I will be impressed if he does but it is starting to look more like a longshot. Might as well start talking to Llull.

 

The only part that I'm worried about his is unnaturally high shooting percentage.

The rest of his game, defense, playmaking, dribble penetration etc. Those shouldn't go away, but it's the fact that in the last few games he has been making 3 pointers and jumpshots that he didn't usually make before that makes me think that part of his game is a hot streak.

Then again, we had the same problem with Kyle. There was a concern that Lowry was merely having a hotstreak on his shot (some are still arguing that), but because his 3 point shot was on mark since the beginning of the season we could reasonably assume that he improved over the off-season. Dragic on the other hand was having a shooting slump as a reserve for a while, but suddenly makes over 40% of his 3PT and 50% of his FG.

 

I disagree. You reward performance. If you do the same to good players and bad players, they will think that performance doesn't pay, or the good players will think that you don't value them and go somewhere else.

 

No. Millions motivate people. He would have improved, but I'm sure he's been putting in the extra effort both on and off the court to make sure he gets his payday.

I would like to say there is no better season to have so much depth than this shortened one. Losing Dragic would suck, but at least we have him for this year's playoffs.

 

Never read this before, first time being brought up? No one caught it here?

I know it may not matter due to Morey's no extensions policy, but i guess there's always a first time.

 

I believe what Feigan is getting at is that even if the Rockets extended Dragic it woudn't be enough for Goran to come close to accepting.

I believe it was actually Phoenix that had the chance to offer an extension but passed it up. Not sure if the Rockets really ever had the chance to extend him when his deadline passed. I think they were able to, but again... being a second round pick, Goran would not be smart to accept that extension because its so low.

I believe the same thing will happen with Chase Budinger next season when he becomes unrestriced. Dont quote me on this, but Im pretty sure thats whats going on with the Dragic extension.

 

That's how I understand it too. I don't know how else it can mean.

And we don't know how much would have been offered. To me, if you are offering a guy extension, you give him slightly better than the perceived market value to show that you really want him to stay, hoping that the perceived value is actually lower than what he is worth so that you end up locking up a guy under the market price.

It's a game of risk and gamble. For Dragic, being a backup is in a position of weakness. How much was he going to be worth if he didn't have the opportunity to shine? If he was offered a contract better than an average backup PG, he would have to choose between security and potentially more ludicrous pay in the open market.

 

That's only true if the belief is not warranted. If the guy is really good enough to be better than the starter, don't you think you would rather lock him up rather than let him test the open market?

It also depends on how much money you offer him. If you offer him backup money, all you are telling him and the teammates is that you think he is a very valuable backup for the team.

 

Lowry, Goran and Brooks. They all have starter abilities. it depends on what the coach system.

will he play harder if he gets paid? only God knows. But personally I think he will.

 

Goran would play just as hard. Now, he might not have been happy with his contract after the dust cleared and the season ended, but he wouldn't have been the only underpaid point guard on the roster. Right now, I think it's a non-issue.

 

The Rockets gave extensions to Yao and Tracy.

 

agree...extensions are a % raise above previous pay. Dragic would be a fool to accept that.

Larry Coon CBA FAQ
"For all other extensions, the salary in the first year of the extension is limited to 110.5% of the salary in the last year of the existing contract."

That would pay Goran <$2.5m starting.

Morey would accept it for sure, but, in this case, the player would not.

 

Good clarification. 2.5M would be too little for Dragic even as a backup. So that's that.

 

Ding ding ding ding ding!!!! We have a winner!!!!

An extension for Goran Dragic was never a feasible option.

Thread topic = moot point. (No offense, durvasa.)