We are a way deeper team If we trade away Scola and Martin for literally nothing, a lineup of Lowry, Dragic, Lee, Patterson, Parsons will still get us no lower than 10th seed in the west, which is barely top 10. Say we trade away Scola, Martin, Lowry all for nothing, we still probably won't be as bad as the bobcats. Do you think that's worth it though, to give up all that realisticly still not have a favorable chance to land Anthony Davis, MKG or any top 3 picks in the draft.
Rockets won't be as bad but they will have lost the depth that makes this team what it is. They will have lost a leader in Scola and Lowry and the usually consistent Martin. I think taking those guys off the team easily wipes away 10+ wins which puts us right about where Golden State is. Also if trading those guys away puts the team on a losing streak, things can very easily fall apart from there, as former NBA players always say...guys 'check out' and go through the motions. Thing is, Bobcats decided "This team as constructed is not going to work." and blew up their team. This is essentially tanking and for some of us, after Yao retired the goal should be to do whatever it takes to get a superstar player.
I hear what you are saying, but look at this. Charlotte has never been any good. Winning 30 or 35 games in the East doesn't mean you are "not that bad". The East has been so weak for so long. If they had been playing in the West, they would have probably won far fewer games. They made the playoffs one time with 44 wins and then lost 0-4 in the first round. They have just been bad since they entered the league. And it's not like they haven't already had a bunch of high lottery picks. 2004-2nd pick 2005-5th pick 2005-13th pick 2006-3rd pick 2007-8th pick 2008-9th pick 2009-12th pick 2011-9th pick That's eight lottery picks in eight years, and they had a bunch of other picks in addition to the lottery picks. So, they've had all of these lottery picks and they've never really been any good. Lottery picks don't automatically make a team a good team, and sometimes it can take teams many years to finally find the right pieces to make a winning team. I guess now they are really getting serious about this tanking business, but I hope the ping pong balls fall in the right direction, because there is no guarantee they will get the top pick.
But it's pointless saying that. Because they don't play in the west, if they continued with the roster in the East...and tried to get marginally better they could very well still be a playoff team in the East. Augustin Jackson Wallace Diaw Say they don't trade Chandler because they are trying to get better and better just like the Pacers and Rockets(Pacers who beat out the Bobcats for that final 8th spot...) and who knows what other moves they make if they continued on just trying to be good. Fact is though they traded away Wallace, Jackson, and Chandler. As a result it made them go from being a average team in the East to the worst team in the East. Sure the East is sucky, but they still play in the East. You can argue the opposite though, because the Pacers were in the very same situation. Despite the rumors they hung onto Granger and have made deals including acquiring West, Hill, Collison solid players to get as good as possible and as a result are the 3rd seed in the East. But still the Bobcats show how easily it can be done.
After seeing the Heat, Spurs, and Celtics get rings, we want at least want to be in the neighborhood of the top 5 pick. Celtics blew up the Paul Pierce and Antoine Walker, because they were a mediocre team. They were kinda like the Rockets, good enough to make the playoffs but not good enough to be contenders. Heat decided to rebuild when Hardaway was getting old, even though they made the playoffs. They got rid of him and Bruce Bowen for nothing took Wade, shortly afterwards, and the rest is history.
Why would you trade those guys for nothing? Picks and prospects don't win games. Lowry for Favors for example would have been such a move.
I wanted to tank. I still would've rather us had tanked than barely making the playoffs. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I think our best chance to get a superstar is through the draft and this year's top 5 or so picks are very high potential players. I think the Rockets are stuck on the mediocre treadmill and unless Dwight or someone wants to come here, we are stuck on that. You don't draft stars @ the 14th pick. That said, now it would be beyond stupid to tank. So I will cheer for wins. I love the Rockets winning.
In 27 years, I have done everything in my power to watch every single Rockets game I could. Even when I lived in Barcelona, Spain, I stayed up until the wee hours of the morning so that I could watch the espn stat box and chat in the clutchfans chat room during game and keep up with what was happening as it happened. Until this season. I haven't watched a single game since December. I don't care. That team isn't worth watching. I don't know what you're even talking about.
Are you and Hollinger related, best friends or just go to school together? He weighs margin very heavily in all his rankings... Margin of victory means almost nothing, especially because it behooves the team that can play and win tight games in the playoffs. Winning by 20 all season is nice, but no one does that and the difference between winning by an average of +/- 3 points doesn't mean a single thing more than your W/L (because people who win more games have a higher average margin!). It isn't weighted for strength of schedule, when you play teams (back to backs, 3 days rest, etc.) or momentum - possibly the best thing to have going in to the playoffs. Stats are tangible and fun, but they don't always mean what we want them to mean, and whatever your bias is, it'll probably show in how you present them.
It isn't exciting to me if there isn't a point. We have no direction. We're running in place. I can't look forward to contending for a championship, nor can I look forward to draft day. And I see you guys are all going nuts over Chandler Parsons but forgive me if I don't really give a **** that our 2nd round pick is a quality starter on a team of quality starters that will never go anywhere. Did any of you guys think it was a big deal last year when Memphis went to the second round? Because a first round surprise is literally the dream scenario for this team as constructed. Again, call me crazy but I can't seem to make myself give a ****.
I wasn't excited for Parsons at first...but now I am. Defensively the guy is a stud. His defensive potential is through the roof and considering that defense usually gets better with experience...who knows Parsons in a few years can be known as the lock down wing player in the entire league. If Parsons offensive game grows just a bit (and he flashes every now and then.) then Parsons is at least as good a player as Scola and Lowry...a fringe all-star type.
I agree with that assessment without even having seen him play since December. I still don't care. What good is a fringe all-star when we have no actual all-star to lead them into contention?
Trolling... Haven't seen the guy who barely played in december since december and he knows everything about him. Hey Nostradamus, who should we draft this year ?
What position in the playoffs... What position in the playoffs could this team reach that would escalate them in the minds of people who are still upset that we are winning and making the playoffs instead of losing for a possible chance at a possible all-star? I mean, if we got the 4th/5th seed, would we still just be garbage on the "treadmill of mediocrity?" Additionally, what level in the playoffs would we have to reach? Because every pessimist on here seems like the 2nd round is something to scoff, point, and laugh at. Semis? The finals? Win it all? Let me know.
He was starting when I quit watching. I remember that. Could have been January. Point is I haven't watched in a long time. I don't claim to know everything about him - I just liked what I saw in him when I saw him play and nothing JayGoogle said seemed implausible to me. Nonetheless, I couldn't get too excited about it because it just doesn't matter. I'm thrilled when the Rockets pull out a second round gem when it's adding to our depth on a team led by Hakeem Olajuwon or even Yao Ming. But when our best player is Kyle Lowry and our best hope for a "star player" seems to be a trade for Pau Gasol - not so much. Really, the best contribution Chandler Parsons can make to this squad at this point is being part of a deal to acquire a real star. So why even bother getting attached to the guy?
