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Trayvon Martin

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. NotInMyHouse

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  2. vlaurelio

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    Trayvon had no business walking through the gated community where he was shot and should not have been out at 3 a.m.

    Trayvon was where he was supposed to be. He and his father were visiting his father's fiancée, who lives in the gated community.Trayvon had walked to a 7-Eleven and was returning to her townhouse shortly after 7:15 p.m.when he was shot. He was not out at 3 a.m.
     
  3. gwayneco

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    I never wrote that he was out at 3AM. I also notice how you ignore the other myths which were basically take downs of anti-Zimmerman claims.
     
  4. vlaurelio

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    there are myths on both sides. what's your point?
     
  5. blink

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    seems like you wrote it to me
     
  6. gwayneco

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    Huh? Where? I have never said Martin had no right to be where he was. And as far as 3AM goes, this is the first I have heard of that claim (which doesn't make any sense anyway)..
     
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    First you vehemently tried to correct me about George zimmerman being Bi-racial, which is false. Then you claim he is half white half hispanic, and now you're claiming it's irrelevant. In florida, being a white Hispanic has the same privileges as being a white American. The article is valid,( it's written by a white guy) GZ is a white male with a hispanic background. He's Afforded the same affluency as a "traditional" white male in the state of florida. He is no less prone to be racist than someone from Arkansas. Plus considering the social dynamics in Florida GZ considers himself every bit of "white" and its privileges.



    I stand by the word hunt. Do you have a problem with it? Zimmerman hunted martin down not because he was "just" black but because black and suspicious go hand in hand. Called him a coon got out the car and thus went hunting. If that word makes you angry so be it. You say follow I say hunt. Not much of a difference. YOU should be angry over zimmerman, but instead you're angry at someone calling out zimmermans actions.




    The Martin family has heard the "facts". (Phone call) According to them GZ racially profiled, based on what zimmerman said. You're trying to throw around the word "facts" as if Martin didn't racially profile based up on your interpretation of the facts. Just be honest with yourself and say YOU personally believe he didn't racial profile, instead of using the martin family as a disguise for "facts". GZ's father can believe what he wants. Two people can come to two diff. Conclusions based on a set of facts. It's not about we as much as it's about you. Again, what's racial profiling to me might not be profiling to you. Plus who's going to decide this as a "fact"? If the martin family associates themselves with jesse jackson, who's according to you is a racist, wouldn't that mean the martin family to be racist as well? That would implicate them to some level of racism. Afterall Jackson is helping them with this matter. If I know a racist I don't surround myself with them, black or white. Maybe you do, which is why you defend Zimmerman.

    I'm not making anything up he clearly said the word coon. You can't hear a clear whisper? Or the fact he whispered it, is not clear to you sir? I'm taking something I heard and basing it upon GZ's actions. You're just not wanting to hear it, and consider it "damning" because it won't fit your personal Narrative of GZ.

    Again what's legitimate racism? Just tell us how you really feel, don't hide behind the open mind excuse and then argue with me up and down about race. So you feel it's disrespectful to compare it to emmit till but others don't. Because that happened years ago it's legitmate, but the trayvon case is not legitimate? Who is it disrespectful to? The same type of elements in this case are present in Till's case. People like you are incredulous. Still turning a blind eye, because you don't want to see what's going on right in front of your eyes.

    So you still dare to say what's legitimate? If you don't believe it's racism, say it but don't sit up here and undermine what's illegitimate
    or legitimate based on your perceptions. Whether it's legitimate or not is NOT up for you to decide. Based on the facts of a 911 call many people consider it profiling. You're now qualifying racism as something it could be, but it's not legitimate to this case as if you have authority on it.


    You keep talking about america In a broad sense. I'm talking about Florida which is where the killing happened. Ask a Peruvian in Florida if they see themselves as a minority? I'm talking about being a white hispanic in Florida specifically. Which is more specific to the case. Florida is not comparable to texas or California or Arizona. Different set of racial dynamics. A white Hispanic absolutely has the same priviliges in florida as a white American. Even more so. George Zimmerman is half peruvian Half american. Not half white. Stop pushing this "half" crap as it somehow distinguishes someone or makes a difference from being a racist. Peruvians can be black or white. Most Peruvians that come over in the USA are not black and especially in Florida don't consider themselves as a minority. The same privileges that Kate gets in Iowa, are the same that Jorge from peru gets in Florida. White hispanics Have capital and clout in Florida, there are no Hunting brigades and minute men Guarding the borders with rifles and muskets. This is not Arizona.
     
  8. vlaurelio

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    did zimmerman racially profile for seeing a black teenager simply walking on the streets as early as 7:15 PM?
     
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    All I know is my gut says maybe

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    ooops sorry race pimps

     
  13. gwayneco

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    Maybe, but there's no evidence that he did.
     
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    I think this incident is just a focus for the fact race relations are still garbage.
     
  15. gwayneco

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    I think it shows just the opposite.
     
  16. H-TOWNSFINEST

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    He should have used a taser.
     
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    at 7:15pm that night did zimmerman absolutely saw no one else walking? I mean was it like a ghost town and everyone was inside of their houses?
     
  19. Ubiquitin

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    "When you plant corn, you get corn"
     
  20. vlaurelio

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    it's funny how the first officer on the scene (smith) did not even care if trayvon was still alive. wasn't he supposed to check if he was still alive at least and give aid first?
     

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