College Republicans say the poor should not be allowed to vote

By this, I assume you mean people who are working class/middle class and actually fill out their W2s, and don't receive massive subsidies.

In which case, I would recommend strong labour unions, a progressive taxation system, and financial regulation to counteract the force of crony capitalist "takers", and to ensure the making class that produces, purchases, and uses all these products, gets their fair share.

 

Ayn Rand was insane. Like genuinely clinically insane.

 

Just make IDs free to qualified citizens. That's a happy medium ain't it? $10 per person ain't gonna kill the nation. If you lose it though, gotta pay for the replacement.

 

No, actually it's health care.

 

The amount a person makes has nothing to do with it. It's about the amount the person is receiving from others. Lots of poor people choose to stand on their own two feet and not take welfare or food stamps.

 

For those talking naively about the cost of ID's, see my post above. Some of you live in such a sheltered world.

You might be sincerely fooled, but the cynical folks supporting the various ID laws and other attempts to keep the poor from voting know the score.

As libertarians and conservatives perpetually rue, the poor and lower middle class don't support their economic policies and if they turn out it is bad news for the 1%

 

People that are deciding between food and medicine aren't going to throw away $16 so they can cast one vote for the party that ignores them less than the other.

This isn't about disdain for the poor as much as it is a political strategy on the part of the party of the rich. The less poor people (or minorities) vote the better they do.

 

Awesome. Let's take the right to vote from the south since they "take" what those NE welfare queens "make."

www.****thesouth.com

The link will not work. You will have to spell out the F word yourself.

 

I've always felt that if you have lost 75%+ of your teeth and don't have dentures or replacement teeth you should be barred from voting.

 

To wit:

 

The whole taker/maker crap makes me want to take the person who thought it was a bright idea to teach Ayn Rand in our English classes and shake him repeatedly.

Not to mention that about 75% of the problem in Greece is due to their culture. A self-centered, vapid and arrogant culture.

But I'd like to know: if voter ID is such a big thing, then why shouldn't the government pay for it? Why should private individuals have to pay anything in exchange for their right to vote?

 

They can't afford $2.50 a year? Are you serious?

 

They also might not be able to afford to take a day off work to go to the DPS office. There are some counties in Texas where you would have to drive 150 miles just to GET to a DPS office, so now the tab includes 12 gallons of gas and a day off work. All this for something that just isn't a problem, based on the dearth of voter fraud cases. This is ALL about Republicans doing everything they can to suppress the vote of Democratic constituencies.

 

The bill doesn't come due in annual increments as I understand it. I would think it would be a one-time fee. I'm not going to argue with you about what amount of money people that struggle to feed their kids should have to pay to the government for the right to vote. In fact, shouldn't you be against things like that?

And why is it that ever Republican measure to do with voting is in order to create an obstacle to voting? Could it be that Republicans traditionally benefit from low turnout, especially among minorities?

Do you think that is an honorable goal to which to aspire, gwayneco? An America where fewer people vote?

 

It's not surprising, though it's not representative of an entire group of people.

However, repubs have never been very focused on improving the social and economic well-being of the impoverished. Is that a generalization? Yes. Do I stand by it? Definitely.

 

I still don't get why liberals think you should forced to give half your paycheck to the government, and also be forced to buy health insurance but lose their crap about paying for an ID card.

 

1. Who is giving half their paycheck to the government? Seriously. Who?

2. Liberals didn't want to force anyone to buy insurance; they wanted a single-payer public health care system -- care, not insurance -- like they have in most civilized Western countries. Obamacare was the best they could do according to obstruction from every single Republican so what we got was in essence a Republican plan, one Romney, Gingrich, Dole and Nixon would have approved or proposed themselves. And the Republicans hate it. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

3. Are you seriously arguing that people should have to pay the government in order to vote?

Don't do debates, man. You are bad at them.

 

What are the tax rates in your beloved "civilized" socialist western countries with the miracle of government health care?

What ever your lame thieving excuse is, you are still unconstitutionally trying to force citizens to buy a particular product that costs thousands of dollars. Then you freak out about someone buying an id card. The hypocrisy is outstanding.

I'm not arguing anything except to point the continuous liberal hypocrisy. And to keep reminding the commie sympathizers that the USA is not a socialist country. So get over it, p***y.

 

It's fairly simple. Liberals tend to believe that government can help solve problems and improve the lives of their citizens. The voter ID card does neither - it's an excessive cost and expansion of government that solves no actual problem.

I think it's amusing that conservatives - the supposed party of smaller government - is pushing an idea that expands government and increases its expenses for no actual reason.