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Another PG dilemma?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by LCII, Mar 30, 2012.

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Lowry or Dragic?

  1. Dragic

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  2. Lowry

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  3. Both!

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  4. Neither.

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  1. conquistador#11

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    got 1o1 dilemmas but a point guard aint one!
     
  2. napalm06

    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    I understand these points, but at some point you have to accept that no two players play under identical circumstances and you can always provide qualifiers like this. Point is, evidence suggests that Dragic is just as effective as Lowry on our team.
     
  3. flamingdts

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    Of course, I think both Lowry and Dragic are awesome. I couldn't have been more happy that we landed Dragic and a pick for basically a few weeks of Brooks' production.

    Dragic has potential to be better than Lowry for sure, but at this stage they are too relatively similar to conclude the better player. We have both of them at this stage, and we should hope it remains that way. Dragic has the size to play the two, perhaps we could run a Lowry-Dragic backcourt. Both guys are deserving of 30 mins.
     
  4. Rip Van Rocket

    Rip Van Rocket Contributing Member

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    How many games does Dragic have to play until we can do away with the "small sample size" argument?
     
  5. jopatmc

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    That's all a bunch of silliness from people who don't know how to judge basketball talent.

    We should really be discussing how good Lowry is when he isn't banged up, sick, dinged, or exhausted. And we should be discussing how long Lowry played while being sick.

    Instead we're discussing sample sizes and jerking knees. Guys that talk that must be pervs. ;) That's all I got to say on that.
     
  6. RV6

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    As many as it takes to get a bacterial infection and not a game less!!
     
  7. durvasa

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    Out of curiosity I calculated Dragic's PER as a reserve versus as a starter.

    In 38 games as a reserve, his PER was 12.6.

    In 14 games as a starter, his PER has been 22.7.

    Overall, Dragic's PER is currently 16.7.

    Lowry's PER in 38 games played this year has been 19.3.
     
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  8. HMMMHMM

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    Keep Lowry, Dragic & Lee. Trade Martin. Problem solved.
     
  9. dobro1229

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    Yep. This is the what.... 20th thread created about this. Goran and Lowry are both pretty awesome and produce similar results. The Rockets are good going forward with either of them.

    The fact that Goran is going to be an unrestricted free agent makes the situation much more complicated and gives Lowry the benefit of the doubt going forward.

    If they cant figure out a situation this summer to either keep both players, or make out a trade that gets back a great return for Lowry then Im perfectly fine with Lowry going forward as the starter again next season, and letting Dragic make the best decision to either sign in Houston again at the price they are willing to pay or take a shot with a new team as their franchise PG.

    Rockets fans just need to enjoy the next few weeks of the Reign of the Dragon and see what happens the Summer. More than likely Goran is not going to be a Rocket and will be a rich man on a bad team, but its still possible that he could be back next season given a draft day mega deal, or offering Goran a competitive contract to come back in a Manu Ginoboli off the bench type of role.
     
  10. Corrosion

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    Who starts the game means little , its who gets the bulk of the minutes andwho finishes games.

    When the entire back court was healthy , we often saw Lowry , Dragic and Lee on the floor to close out games and after Martin started playing poorly , all of them got "starters minutes".

    Now that Lowry & Martin are out , Lee and Dragic are really being stressed with the minutes. I like the options that Lowry , Lee and Dragic give across multiple positions.
     
  11. Carl Herrera

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    It is strange how much better Dragic is shooting as a starter. The question is whether such FG% can be sustained.
     
  12. Orosi Riley

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    Trade Martin

    Trade one or the other (Martin or Lowry) and get a center or draft pick this year or next. I would use Lowry and Dragic together. Maybe together they are too small or short, but we have defense, scoring and great play making.
     
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    Hey, much thanks dude. Been waiting for that.
     
  14. ThatBoyNick

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    Not at all, don't forget dragic is a very good scorer. Some i remember didn't like the idea of dragic being our PG because they thought he takes to many shots. Well when he's at the 2G he can score all he wants and use his passing ability's here and there, and we all can see he's just fine with running the point.
     
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    BOTH is the only option for the rest of this season.

    And because Lowry, if he makes it back, will be coming back after a long illness and will have to work himself back into shape, he will, at least initially, come off the bench. And because the season is winding down, I would expect Lowry to continue to anchor the bench unit....UNLESS....Dragic crashes down to earth somehow.


    If Lowry gets healthy, I expect to see both guys playing alongside one another for long stretches of games.

    And I see no reason why Dragic could not be a starter alongside Lowry if we re-sign him next season and we do not trade Lowry.
     
  16. Easy

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    Yeah, the thing about Dragic is that we still don't know if he is in a hot streak or if he is really that good a shooter. But then, we were wondering if Lowry's 3pt improvement was for real last season.
     
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    +1 and rec'd durvasa.

    The question is, is it just a hot streak for Dragic, or does more playing time help his consistency on his shot? If the latter then maybe this is mostly sustainable, if the former then he's still a very good PG but not an all-star level one.
     
  18. Carl Herrera

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    Lowry at least had a whole season worth of data.
     
  19. larsv8

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    I would explore a trade in the offseason of:

    Lowry + Dally + Budinger + #1 pick

    for

    Iggy + Holiday

    Philly can buyout Dally and build around Lowry/ET while saving some money. Houston beefs up its perimeter defense and could resign Dalembert after the buyout. Resign Dragic for 5-7 a year.

    Dragic / Holiday
    Martin / Lee
    Iggy / Parsons / Morris
    Scola / Patterson / Montejounas
    Camby / Dally / Montejounas

    I believe losing Dragic in free agency is a whole lot worse than giving him a decent contract and enticing him to stay by offering him the starting job, while moving Lowry while his value is through the roof.
     
  20. flamingdts

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    I don't know, I guess maybe half a season is a decent sample size?

    How many knee-jerks do we need before we realize that it's not one or the other but both?
     

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