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Why do you think Trayvon Martin's Case is getting so much attention?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by wizkid83, Mar 30, 2012.

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Why do you think Trayvon Martin's Case is getting so much attention?

  1. Victim was black

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    17.2%
  2. The fact that the shooter isn't being charged with a crime

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    41.4%
  3. Both options

    24 vote(s)
    41.4%
  1. gwayneco

    gwayneco Contributing Member

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    Yep. And given the difference in population that means that a white/Hispanic is 13 times more likely to be killed by a black person than vice versa
     
  2. Rocket River

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    Internal black conflict does not cause racial division
    it causes internal black division . . . so for them to speak on racial division
    at that point. .. . would just be stupid

    As for them commenting on black on black crime
    they do
    Simply put. . . . people not in the black demographic
    don't care to listen then. . . it doesn't affect them so ***** it . ..
    they don't listen . . .when you have something that affects 13% of the population
    generally . . .it is ignored by news because it doesn't drive ratings
    trust and beleive. .they have commented on it. . but you just haven't hear about it
    if you wanna find fault . .. find in the news stations that only give them
    air time when it is white on black and not black on black



    Rosanne rode OJ pretty hard for years . . if that is any consolution
    You cannot assume it was to insite vigilantism . . that is YOUR ASSUMPTION
    but
    If it was a horrendous crime like this one . .. it might have happened.
    But it happens with this program they call TIPS
    where they put out all the relevent info for a suspect


    I think TIPS puts out 'bounties'
    or Rewards which is a whitewashed way of saying a bounty.
    They did not call for his death but a Citizen's arrest
    which ironically, it is what it seems Zimmerman when he killed Trayvon


    I do recall calls for Casey Anthony's arrest
    Hell Nancy Grace made a career on it . . [has she commented on this case?]


    Rocket River
     
  3. Major

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    That's all irrelevant because none of that incited the media firestorm. Those all were people piling on well after this was a part of the national conversation.

    Sure - but that wasn't the case when the media started covering the story. The story they were covering and presenting was one of an incompetent police department.

    Perhaps no one complained in that case because there weren't major omissions and failures by the police department to complain about.

    Again, that's irrelevant to whether why this case is getting so much attention. The police brought that on themselves by doing a crappy job early on in the process and failing to properly identify the victim or collect evidence.
     
  4. AroundTheWorld

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    Why do you make a random cut somewhere and say that something is just piling on after the fact? One could just as well say that all of that is part of the media firestorm. Other topics become part of a national conversation and then die down faster than this one, without Sharpton/Farrakhan etc. jumping on it. At the very least it keeps the firestorm going.
     
  5. Major

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    Sure - they might have extended the media conversation and taken it to new places. But everyone was already talking about this long before they got involved. If you want to ask why the case got so much attention, their actions aren't part of the equation - it's quite clear there was something else to the story that caused it to get so much attention.

    Just look at our very own Trayvon Martin thread. It was started on Mar 10th, when this was already a national story (the killing happened on Feb 26th). Look how long the discussion went before Sharpton/Farrakhan/etc became part of it. Farrakhan's big retaliation thing was March 22nd. Jesse Jackson, I believe, was March 26th. I believe Sharpton was this last week as well. It's pretty easy to see the timeline.
     
  6. Rocket River

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    Agreed. I heard about it . . and posted it here.
    I posted it because I felt it was NOT getting attention.

    Then I watched it grow . .. quite interesting to watch really

    Rocket River
     
  7. amaru

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    Lol the same old tired racist notions. As far as we have come we just can't escape this nations past can we?
     
  8. KingCheetah

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    The news is filled with missing and murdered white people (think pretty blondes) and a black kid gets some national attention and the fringe goes nuts claiming bias.


    TRY HARDER
     
  9. ChievousFTFace

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    I'm pretty sure he was asking you to provide a link rather than make it look like you are pulling numbers and facts out of your tuchus.
     
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  10. crash5179

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    http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/c...-facts-are-needed-before-rushing-to-judgment/

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/f...ton-and-jackson-of-exploiting-trayvon-martin/

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/jesse-jackson-says-trayvon-martin-murdered-and-martyred/

    I just thought these were some interesting difference of oppinions from black leaders.
     
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  11. gwayneco

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    I am using FBI crime data. Basically you want the expanded homicide data table #6.

    Using 2008-2010 data / per year

    White victims of black offenders - 467
    Black victims of whiter offenders - 219
     
  12. rocketsjudoka

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    OK have found it. Here is the link. http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc.../crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl06.xls

    Thanks for providing that.

    Looking at the data though one thing stands out that it is far far more likely for someone to be killed by someone of their own race.

    That said I don't think that changes my original point. Even if the killing of black man by a white man isn't as common, now, when it happens it does raise a historical spectre of lynching. That is why the Emmit Till references where brought up.

    Now to head you off you can argue about the validity of that comparison, I am not saying it is in this case, just explaining why this case has garnered more attention.
     
  13. crash5179

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    You make fair points.

    I just that there is a segment of the media and certain leaders (Jackson, Sharpton) that are like ambulance chasers looking for the next case that can give them a reason to create racial division. I don't think it's warrented for those guys to start drawing race lines in this case.

    I believe Zimmerman will get charged and convicted of manslaughter but I don't think there would have been as much of a media storm if it was black on black. Your point about black on black crime affecting something like 13% of the population and therefor does not draw as much media coverage is disturbing for a whole different reason. It makes it seem that the media is overreporting the race issues as an attempt to drive up rattings. Would not shock me at all.
     
  14. Rocket River

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    I am no fan of Sharpton and Jessie
    BUT . . . If I felt wrong . . .racially wronged
    They are my goto guys .. .they get results.

    Also . . . when something of race comes up . . .
    they are the media's goto guys
    Even if they were not involved. . .a camera and microphone would have
    magically shown up in their faces. . .

    Ratings are the life blood of the media. . .
    [esp since they moved it to entertainment section of the company]
    The media decides who is important. . and why
    They may ask the every man . . . his opinion but it is usually once
    With Shaprton and Jackson . .the media pretty much will assign a person
    to just following them.

    it sucks. . but . . .

    Rocket River
     

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