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Why do you think Trayvon Martin's Case is getting so much attention?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by wizkid83, Mar 30, 2012.

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Why do you think Trayvon Martin's Case is getting so much attention?

  1. Victim was black

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  2. The fact that the shooter isn't being charged with a crime

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  3. Both options

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  1. ChievousFTFace

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    Where did I assume your race? Your question is irrelevant since I did no such thing.
     
  2. RocketRaccoon

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    No, it's an ignorant queston designed to insult. And that you did by questioning Crash. And yes, it took a bit of racism to ask that question.
     
  3. ChievousFTFace

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    Hate is hate. You don't understand it fully until you've experienced it.

    A bit of racism... that's hilarious... I'm a "butthole racist" just like Martin was an "a-hole" to Zimmerman. Unfounded.
     
  4. thegary

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    i cannot be insulted racially.
     
  5. crash5179

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    Really? So a bit of racism is ok so long as it comes from you? At least now I know your stance. And your really going to compare being called ignorant to the Treyvon Martin case?

    And what makes you think me or RR have note experienced hate and racism. Your making some pretty large assumptions.
     
  6. ChievousFTFace

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    You still can't point out where I was racist.
     
  7. Nook

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    Yes, and every day you walked 10 miles home from school, without shoes, while staring at the sun. Have to love the huge amount of hispanic hatred for Jewish Americans.... did it ever occur to you that they were going to attack you regardless of whether you were Baptist, Muslim, Jew or Catholic?.....

    Further..... did you grow up poor, in the ghetto? Were you white trash? Did you come from a split/dysfunctional family? Do you have some illness? Are you disabled? Are you a woman? Are you short? Do you have below average intelligence?
     
  8. RocketRaccoon

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    -delete- not worth it anymore
     
  9. ChievousFTFace

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    Of course I haven't experienced all those things. I simply asked the question if they had experienced hate/bigotry/racism first hand. If they don't feel comfortable talking about their first hand experiences, then that's fine too. Instead, verbal insulted were hurled my way.

    All we can ask for is empathy. I don't hold anything against the guys that confronted me in the parking lot. I only pity the fact that they harbor such hate.

    My closest circle of guy friends since high school includes a hispanic (my best friend), vietnamese, chinese, kenyan and a honduran. I was recently the best man in a muslim & catholic wedding. I would love to be called a racist and I would love to tell the black woman that had a large hand in raising me that I was referred to as one so we can have a laugh.
     
  10. T_Man

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    This is just pure ridicules....

    Everyone in the country is acting stupid over the wrong thing....

    I posted in another thread, this is not about race.. This is about the "LAW"...

    Are there a lot of reporters, politicians and etc.. using this to their advantage? "YES".. Is this anything new "NO"..

    This is not the first incident with this law "Stand Your Ground" and it doesn't matter the race of who's killing who....

    My fiance' asked me the other day what happened to the FAMU issue? I told her it became old news when the Trayvon Martin issue came to light.. Guess what the same thing will happen to this news..

    The issue and the focus should be on the "LAW" this law is like a deadly disease and it doesn't care about age, gender or race... So arguing about a politician motive is just crazy, because ALL politicians have been doing this well before this incident and they will be doing it well after this incident..

    This whole thing with Trayvon Martin has gotten out of control and the fact is a young kid no matter what his past is or was is dead. The sad thing is he's not the first to die from this "LAW" and if they don't make some changes to the "LAW" he want be the last..

    T_Man


     
  11. Anas acuta

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    I see no one has re quoted this. Excellent view points.
     
  12. Rocketman95

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    Quitter.
     
  13. Major

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    If it were that simple, sure. But of course, the reality is that it wasn't. There were questions about the police investigation. There were questions about witness statements. There were questions about the police department's history. There were questions about why the victim's family was not contacted. There were questions about why standard drug and alcohol tests were not administered and why evidence walked away from the scene. And on and on.

    Were there similar questions in the other case? Is there any evidence that a proper investigation was not conducted there? Your attempt to turn the situation to race ignores all the facts and circumstances of the case that made it unique.

    No. I do, however, see a person oversimplifying a situation in order to make it about race, when the reality is that the initial outrage that sparked the national story had nothing to do with race and was universal by everyone in that very community - white, black, and others.
     
  14. RocketRaccoon

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    no, just being reasonable. I only play with you guys during the day while I'm working (for entertainment purposes ;)). Work is done so I'm out.

    Till next time, Rocketman95.
     
  15. Nook

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  16. NotInMyHouse

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    Hate is hate, as you say, and it comes in many forms that many people experience in many different ways. Hate isn't something you experience solely because of your skin color, as you pointed out.
     
  17. crash5179

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    I'm saying the killing had anything to do with Zimmerman being a racist. However all the media attention would not be there if this were a black on black crime or a white on white crime or latino on latino crime. The media frenzy happened because it was a crime commited by one race against another. And because there are people like Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson that look for any reason to create racial devision.
     
  18. rocketsjudoka

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    Do you have stats to support that?
     
  19. Major

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    No - it wasn't. The media attention started long before Al Sharpton and company got involved with their nonsense. When it first started, yes, the races were mentioned - but it was in context of the police investigation and the feeling that the police didn't care to investigate the death of a random black kid (thus leaving him in the morgue without bothering to identify). It was the police's screwups that made this a sensation - race is certainly a part of it, but much of that started well after this case had already blown up.

    If the races had been different, but the police still screwed up, it would still be a media sensation. If the races had been the same, but the police investigated properly and did everything right, it would not have been a media sensation. The whole reason it blew up in the first place is that the family went to the press because it didn't appear that the police were doing their job.
     
  20. crash5179

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    BS.

    - If it was black on black crime would you have heard a peep from Al Sharpton or Jessei Jackson trying to create racial division? No
    - If it were black on black crime would Spike Lee and Rosan Barr be tweeting an address trying to insight vigilante revenge? No.
    - If it were black on black crime would there be a $10,000 bounty on the accused? No.

    I could go on and on.

    Plus at this point it is hard to determine fact from misinformation. We were arguing the other day about why the police did not at least question Zimmerman and now we know that he was handcuffed and taken to jail for questioning before being released.

    We don't know what mistakes were made in the Dooley / James case because the media and others didn't join together in trying to prevent the police from following Due Process. They eventually get it right even if it took weeks before charging Dooley.

    The police are in a no win situation now because even when they do formally charge Zimmerman with manslaughter people will say it only happened because of all the outside intervintion when that may not be the fact at all.
     
    #80 crash5179, Mar 30, 2012
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