This generation's Roe v. Wade, Brown vs. Board---Supreme Court moves on Obamacare.

"Save lives right, or don't save them. I'm pro-life! I'm basso!"

 

States can pass laws that the Federal government cannot pass, because Congress has limited, enumerated powers. They can only pass laws if they fit under the powers listed in Article I section 8 of the Constitution. States do not have this limitation. I don't know the Massachusetts constitution, so there may or may not be a challenge available there, but the decision here should have no effect on the MA law.

 

If someone wanted to challenge it using the Supreme Court's decision as a legal precedent don't you think that would be strong enough to work?

 

Not really. The Supreme Court is pretty damn vague regarding states powers. The 10th amendment is a virtual blank check for states to do whatever it wants. And this is a commerce clause and taxation case, neither of which are applicable to the states.

 

The supreme court can pull all kinds of **** from its ass. The can say a person is property. They can say separate, but equal. The fact hat 9 old mostly white, from 4 schools, and very rich get to decide the fate of our country.

 

I wasn't able to listen to all of them but did hear some.

 

I was responding to another person's hypothetical anecdotal evidence. At least mine was a real situation, not a vague threat to lay people off once Obamacare goes into effect.

 

Barry is having a hard time, the stimulus failed miserably, his holy grail ObamaCare is about to be tossed. Barry is a complete utter failure as president.

Now that America has a little taste of you lefties(president,senate, congress), the American people will never make that mistake again.

God Bless America!

 

I hear Cuba is lovely this time of the year and they have a fabulous healthcare system too.

Say hi to Fidel for me!

 

Singapore and Australia have socialized health care and things seem pretty good there.

 

I already noted it was a Republican idea, developed by the Heritage Foundation, implemented by your presumptive nominee when he was governor, and routinely part of the Republican Party policy positions for 20 years before passage. You may Google all of that at your leisure.

So, Republicans who developed the idea and Democrats who voted for it all thought it was Constitutional.

 

If they rule against, I'm almost certain the ruling will be limited to the present circumstances. Otherwise, they throw out the foundation to bunch of laws.

Of course, that also means the decision would be purely political.

 

Many people in this country do not care if things work, as long as they can have their view point enforced.

 

Wasnt even that long ago. Republican clowns like Sen. Grassley were talking it up as recently as 2009 during the health care debate. (see video below) In fact during the debate, the mandate wasn't even really an issue. Stupid crap like the bill paying for abortions or "death panels" were the big hot button issues. The mandate was actually the one area that people were generally ok with in Congress.

It only became an issue after the tea party decided to make it one. And here we are now.

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You do realize, I hope, that Willard is a way dumber name than Barry.

 

Not to mention his new budget just got voted down 414-0 today in the House

When it rains it pours

 

I do have to admit, Republicans are very good at winning symbolic victories that mean nothing. I find it amusing that declaring victory over such things is such a source of pride to their supporters though. It's almost like they are more concerned with symbolism than actually accomplishing anything.

 

Not sure where you got that because Obama didn't even want a mandate.

 

I'm referring to the debate after the bill was proposed. What you are referring to was during the primary election process.

I'm only saying that of the massive health care bill, the mandate was one of the less controversial elements of it. There were areas that were a much bigger deal. In particular, the public option, the expansion of Medicaid, abortions, rationing of care, etc..

Mandating private insurance was an area that a lot of Republicans quietly accepted at the time.

 

who declared a victory? why do you say it is a sense of pride? Mental gymnastics at it's finest. It is a shame for Obama but that's it.