The reason the police gave her was because her statements didn't match up with Zimmerman's. That's what is unfair. Meanwhile I'm waiting for all the people who complained about media manipulation when the picture of Zimmerman was the mugshot to complain about media manipulation when they are using fake photos that aren't even Martin at all. I'm still waiting on that one.
The problem with this conclusion is that it is all after-the-fact. How could Zimmerman be sure that Trayvon didn't have a gun? As a matter of fact, it would appear that Trayvon was unaware that Zimmerman had a gun as he launched an attack on him and, according to recent reports, even came up behind him. Make your judgments in real time not in casual retrospect with gross over-generalizations.
It's hardly conclusive that Martin launched an attack on Zimmerman at all. There is evidence that contradicts that. Let me ask you, giddy... If you are going to attack someone from behind do you talk on your cell phone the whole time? Because phone records show that Martin was on his cell phone at the time of the attack.
In a way, this case is a microcosm of the entire Obama Administration – a tightly controlled, well orchestrated, deceptive media campaign which obscures the truth, suppresses information, preys on emotions, and spins information to achieve a final outcome. So why did Obama make comments last Friday on this issue? For starters, he had to do something to mollify his outraged black base, but that alone wasn’t enough to get him to talk. The real reason was because he needed a distraction. He chose Friday because he wanted this issue dominating the news cycle through the weekend and on Monday – to bury the story of Obamacare’s 2 year anniversary and bury the story of the constitutionality of Obamacare being taken up by the Supreme Court. Those are two very negative stories that hurt his approval ratings, and as we all should know by now, approval ratings and re-election are Obama’s priorities (ask Comrad Medvedev). Obama (and when I say Obama I really mean Axelrod and Plouffe, who run the media today and run Obama’s reelection) also saw side benefits from raising the enthusiasm levels of his black base, and the fact that this occurred in Florida, which will lead to greater organization/registration of his base in a key reelection state (watch for this story to come – voter registration drives among Trayvon protestors). “Never waste a crisis”…it’s what Rahmbo preaches. It’s a sickening way of using a tragedy – and just look at how everyone has fallen victim to these manipulative tactics – it’s worked like a charm for Axe and Plouffe… and the vast majority of Obama’s rabid supporters don’t have a clue how they are being toyed with.
I thought that is what the one eyewitness reported... the larger point is that it would appear that Zimmerman was not threatening Trayvon with a gun from the get-go. I've heard or read nothing about the gunshot wound. Where did you find information about the cellphone records?
One eyewitness who hasn't gone on record and won't give his name claims that he saw Martin attack Zimmerman from behind. The cell phone records comes from news pieces I've seen. Here's a link that talks about it. http://articles.cnn.com/2012-03-20/...amily-cell-phone-benjamin-crump?_s=PM:JUSTICE
This post is off on a few circumstances. Yes there was an attempt at media control such as the release of pics of Martin made to have him appear more hood than the other pictures released. Turns out at least one of those photos was fake, and wasn't even Martin. Also releasing a statement on Friday is what politicians do when they want it to go away and disappear.
Perfect example of intellectual laziness. Batman, were you drunk or high last night? I trust you haven't relapsed, but it appears that you might have done just that. I will pray for you. brb ok I'm back Lately, you have had a tendency to relate issues and stories to completely unrelated issues and stories, in an attempt to distract. In this case you talk about beating a woman, which everyone agrees is horrible, but is not relevant in this situation unless Martin was a shemale, which we do not know to be true. You did it in the abortion thread as well, referring to interracial marriage. I'd like to ask you to dig deeper on the issues -- find the facts, then build a solid judgment or opinion based upon those facts. In this case, you've simply gathered a superficial level of knowledge and not pushed harder. You're being lazy. Push harder, my friend.
The eyewitness did not witness the start of fight, just at some point martin was on top of George. George claimed that martin came up to him and punched him.
That very well could be deadly force but I noted this earlier there are some basic problems with the story that Zimmerman shot Martin while Martin was smashing his head against the concrete. 1. For Martin to be bashing Zimmerman's head into the concrete he needs to be kneeling over Zimmerman who has been knocked backward down on the ground. 2. If Zimmerman shot Martin as he was bashing his head into the concrete then Martin's body most likely would've fallen on top of Zimmerman yet witnesses report that in the immediate aftermath of the shooting report seeing Zimmerman standing over Martin's body. 3. It is possible Zimmerman shot Martin while Martin was bashing his head in and quickly got Martin's body off of him, stood up and then straddled stood over the body but that seems questionable considering that getting your head bashed against the concrete is likely to leave him dazed. Martin is 6'-3" and Zimmerman 260 so just moving that much mass would take some time. 4. If Martin was in the process of bashing Zimmerman's head he is over Zimmerman and in very close proximity. The gun shot and ensuing collapse of Martin on Zimmerman is likely going to leave a lot of blood on the front of Zimmerman. The police report doesn't state that only that Zimmerman is bleed from the nose, bleeding from the back of head and his back is wet. While the wound on the back of Zimmerman's head might've been caused by Martin smashing his head it seems more likely that the gash came from Martin punching Zimmerman and Zimmerman hitting his head as he fell back from the punch. One other factor though if Martin was bashing Zimmerman's head against the concrete is given the location of the Martin's body in relation to Zimmerman and the lack of blood on Zimmerman's body, is that Martin may have jumped on Zimmerman and slammed his head. Zimmerman pulls his gun. Martin sees it gets off of Zimmerman and backs off. Zimmerman stands and shoots Martin in that moment. That scenario would fit that Martin was slamming Zimmerman's head, and that the witness initially saw Martin on top of Zimmerman and then Zimmerman standing over Martin after the shot. That though makes it less likely to be self defense since Martin would've ended his attack on Zimmerman. Zimmerman can still argue that he acted in the heat of the moment but that again is manslaughter and not self-defense.
Neither of them likely were aware whether the other was armed or not. The problem with that is on the basis of reasonableness you can't just shoot someone because you think they might be armed.
Thank you for posting that image and that gives some important context. Zimmerman could very well have been heading back to his car at the moment of confrontation but that shows that he had been attempting to follow Martin for awhile. Looking at the map it is possible that Martin has been trying to avoid Zimmerman on foot and tries to lose him by going back behind the houses. Zimmerman gets out of his car and follows. Zimmerman loses sight of Martin and start's heading back to his car on the street, Martin loses sight of Zimmerman and starts heading back to the street to make his way back to his father's house. The both end up running into each other in back walkway between the houses. From Zimmerman's POV he assumes that Martin has doubled back to attack him, from Martin's POV Zimmerman has found him. An altercation ensues. That seems reasonable.
I notice you hate MOOSLIMZ. You want some substance? If this guy was named Jorge Garcia instead of George Zimmerman, there would be about 98% less uproar. Truths be self evident, brah.
Wasn't it a blue tooth head set? I thought I read that. So actually to someone who saw you on the street in a hoody, it would look like you were talking to yourself, not talking on the phone.
Maybe he was referring to crazy people when he said "these ******** get away with everything" because he thoguht this person was talking to himself.
