This. Common sense/logic. He had no reason to get out of his car. Period. Anyone that defends this action has an obvious agenda. Zimmerman has some issues..there has probably been an episode on Criminal Minds about this type of behavior
He was arrested for being in possession of a firearm as a convicted felon, not the bounty. Not sure how much time you get for a bounty, but you are gonna go to rape in the ass prison for a felon with a gun.
Says the guy who has 26 thousand more posts on ONE website dedicated to opinions/arguments. Thanks for the laugh.
Sigh. You failed to shoot any of my points down. Instead you still sound emotional. Nope, no skeletons, just wanted to provide you the full visual of your upcoming painful anal fissures. Please teach your kids that insults are what you resort to when you've been brutalized and defeated. When you have nothing left, you resort to insults. It's not something your children should ever try to mimic, as I would aspire for a more thoughtful upbringing for them. First off, I'll offer you a spelling lesson. Please pass this along to your kids, as well, so they don't make the same amateurish mistake. The word you were looking for is "whether", not "weather". Can you please tell me which of the Zimmerman incidents resulted in a conviction? I'll await your response. What you missed is that Martin also allegedly has a violent past, by striking a bus driver. 6 calls isn't statistically significant, therefore you have no point. Next. You simply cannot support the racism claim. You're just making that up. Sorry, but you can't toss out the race card and expect not to get called out on it. Notice all the insults coming from you -- another sign of defensiveness and defeat. Again, I'd urge you to try to teach your kids better tactics. One semi decent reason: He was casing homes, or walking slow waiting for a drug deal to go down. There's two -- one was for extra credit. Both could be viewed as suspicious. Another insult (thereby showing everybody your predictable defeat). Let me know if I can serve as a "big brother" to your kids, to provide them a better future.
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So your saying that if anybody in the nation walks slow with a phone in one hand, it is plausible that they are waiting for a drug deal to go down? So youve never in your life, have walked down a street with a phone in one hand and thought, oh gee what if the cops think Im waiting for a drug deal? Really?
Except that it isn't the job of the on scene officer to determine the value of witness testimony. Their job is to record it and then the DA decides if it is valuable enough to press charges.
Of course they have every right to be upset. Their son is dead. Even if their son had been mugging or raping someone and had been killed they would have cause to be upset. I'm the person who first posted the link to that woman's interview. In her original statement she stated that it was a "man's" voice she heard yelling for help. Later, she recanted her testimony under tremendous (but perhaps legitimate) political and social pressure and declared it was definitely a "boy" she had heard She had the dubious logic that it had to be the dead boy (although her immediate reaction during the incident was the voice she was hearing was a "man's voice") since the voice stopped yelling after the gunshot. As if whoever was yelling for help would have kept yelling after his attacker was dead. As for her other complaint that the police didn't pursue her phone calls with due diligence, she may have a point. Also it sounds like they weren't sensitive handling the corpse. But that's not unusual for police, regardless of race or circumstance. A lot of times police are assholes. And I say that from experience having had my condo broken into and involvement in a bar scuffle or two in college. It sounds like they had decided based on Zimmerman's and the one eye witness's testimony which way they were going to go and they didn't want to keep entertaining some woman who kept changing her story. Obviously the shooter hadn't been drinking, he was a known member of the neigborhood, his statements were consistent with his injuries, the lack of injuries on the victim, 911 records and eyewitness testimony. I doubt she's looking to be "fawned over." It's not some Munchausen Syndrome or anything. She surely believes her account, and has gotten a lot of positive "hero" response from blacks and the media for changing her story. She probably believes it. And if she is right that the police didn't follow all leads exhaustively, then that's a legitimate complaint. As are stories that the police didnt' identify Martin's body. The concerns that maybe the race of the victim, the killers' father's prominent position in the community, the fact that he was Jewish and/or latino in South Florida where they are 2 of the most powerful political groups etc etc all may have well contributed to the handling of the case. It's a tragedy for Martin and his parents but also a ****ing disgrace how Obama, Jesse Jackson and other circle their wagons based on race before even knowing all the facts. Jackson didn't even know who Zimmerman was before he yelled racism. That guy has no honor. Jesse Jackson talked about rednecks in the South targeting blacks after Obama's election but this dude isn't even technically white. He is a CAUCASIAN SEMITE (Jew) and a CAUCASIAN latino. Neither of which fit the stereotype of a white Southern WASP redneck racist who goes out to target blacks. It's possible that doing his neighborhood watch Zimmerman had some bias towards black youth or believed they commit more crimes (which they do, statistically. sorry if that fact is disturbing to you). He may have had some issues (like say Steven A Smith has a problem with Linsanity, Tebowmania or any athletes who isn't black) but Zimmerman probably wasn't racist. He volunteered with black kids for years and probably did more community stuff for disadvantaged African American youth than Trayvon or his parents probably did. Supposedly he spent his own money supporting 2 black kids from a local program even after the program shut down. Having said that, it seems that Zimmerman is actually guilty. It's irrelevant if Martin smoked weed or looked gansta or even if he was a punk who sucker punched and attacked Zimmerman. Even if he had suddenly attacked Zimmerman without provocation, broken his nose, or smashed his skull into concrete, unless he was actually endangering his life, deadly force is not warranted. It's murder. Period. There are no witnesses to the shooting. Although 1 man did see the fight. As conjecture, it seems that Martin started to run off once he realized popo was coming, since he had just in fact assaulted a man. Then Zimmerman shot him. There's no other reasonable explanation why a fat Jewish/mexican man would be on top of a 6'3" black kid with the kid's face in the dirt at the moment that 3 witnesses found him, when a moment before 1 witness had seen him being pummeled onto concrete with the kid on top of him. Someone posted early in this thread how black parents have been forced to teach their kids not to fight or be aggressive, especially with authority figures and strangers.... as if that's something shameful or discriminatory. Sorry but that's what ALL civilized people: regardless of white, black, yellow, pink and green teach their kids. Walk away whenever you can... because the alternative could end up with you 6 feet under, all because you were trying to "keep it real."
Still taking that into account that doesn't automatically state that Martin was the aggressor and that Zimmerman didn't act in self-defense. As I outlined early this strikes me as manslaughter if Zimmerman shot Martin as he was losing the fight. In the scenario I outlined it is very possible that both were yelling and depending on the timing and location of witnesses they heard Zimmerman or Martin yelling. That doesn't make much sense given that Zimmerman had said he was going back to his car because he lost sight of Martin, not that he was obeying the dispatcher. From his own statement he is admitting he was in pursuit and the only thing that stopped him was that he lost sight. Also I pointed this out earlier but there are two contradictory stories attributed to Zimmerman about how Martin confronted him. One says that Martin stepped in front of him and another that Martin approached from the rear. I agree the situation isn't clear cut and there is a possibility that Zimmerman acted in self-defense. That said the only scenario that I see fits all of the facts is that both of them got into an altercation and that Zimmerman shot Martin when he felt he was losing the altercation. Keep in mind I don't think that Zimmerman is outrightly lying but likely believes he acted out of a legitimate fear. The problem with that though is many of his actions put self-defense into question. I am still standing by that manslaughter fits all the facts as we currently know them.
I responded to the post that you brought this up earlier but the interview that I saw with her, the video is on this thread many many pages back, says that she always believed it was Martin yelling and that the officer that took her statement corrected her. So she was initially pressured by the officer to say that it was Zimmerman.
That story was a little weird. Why did Zimmerman respond "No"? At the very least, if you're going to chase a guy around like they're some sort of criminal, at least have the decency to give him an explanation.
Apparently, if you are black and/or have been accused of something completely irrelevant in the past, you should.
Just don't understand why Zimmerman would call the cops in the first place if Martin wasn't peeping in windows or cars. Call the cops because a guy is walking slow? really?
Zimmerman's suspicions were based on him thinking martin was on drugs and looking to steal something. Considering that, I don't think "been accused of something completely irrelevant" rings true considering he was accused in the past of doing drugs and theft.
Delusional. Purely delusional. You sure do seem to have a pleasure in discussing the anus and anus fissures. I think you are hiding something. Anyone who talks as much about another mans anus is definitely hiding something. Actually my children read your responses and find you unrealistic and ridiculous. They also can't believe adults exist who think like you. Oh be careful big Tessy. I could easily point out your use of brah, which is not defined in Webster's, as a poor choice of brutalizing the English language. I could also point so several poor sentence fragments, and run on sentences throughout your posting history. That's moot and besides the point as this is an internet forum and I would claim that grammar policing is usually a sign of getting destroyed on a mental level. So his records are sealed. Good job by his attorney. Now on to the real point. It happened and it shows a pattern and a history with Zimmerman. Funny how Trayvon was not indicted for weed, or theft, yet you use those parts of his past to associate him with "possibly" making a drug deal that night. Or to maybe even be casing homes. When the evidence is that Trayvon had no large sums of money, nor drugs on him upon death. You are looking like a giant hypocrite right here Tessy. One indident. Growing up and child like behavior from a child. Never repeated. Seems like he learned from it then. What you missed is that unlike Zimmerman he did not beat up on a woman (which lead to him being served with an injunction for him to stay away), and fought with police. Lack of conviction doesn't change the fact that Zimmerman at very least is a woman beater and has trouble with alcohol and authority figures. It is if 99.9999999999999999999 percent of the American population doesn't call 911 that often. Especially when it seems solely dedicated on calling about people on a certain race for the most part. Yes because he was so compelled to call the police over a 7 year old black kid. LOL. Thanks for making yourself look so foolish. Sorry, if the boot fits...There is a reason you get called it so often Tessy. Obviously you don't agree, but when the world points the collective finger at you (for the most part at very least, and no fellow right wing nut jobs running to help defend you-all 3 of them- doesn't count in your favor) then something is up. So upon further review if this wasn't a race issue, if a sixty year old white man walked by on his cell phone, Zimmerman should or would of done the same thing? Man it was so easy to catch you in your on fit of racism. I knew you would fall for that, and of course you did. You think he was potentially casing homes because he was on his way home from buying skittles and tea? While on the phone with his girlfriend? Wow....amazing bit of racism there buddy. I actually feel sorry for any possible children growing up in your house....BRAH. LOL
Don't know if this has been posted. First time looking in this thread and I'm not going through 100+ pages.
