How profound/grammar brah. Not saying it isn't true, but it doesn't make sense to me, Zimmerman is following Martin on foot, dispatcher says stop, Zimmerman starts to head back to his car, Martin jumps him and they tussle from the sidewalk/street all the way into someones backyard? No way. Zimmerman obviously didn't immediately go back to his car when he was told to so his lawyer is saying: he confronted Martin, then went back to his car, then Martin decides to attack the guy he's been running away from?
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Prepare your anus, Hak34, you're about to get obliterated by me. Your post was one of the most illogical and flat out wrong I've read in a while. I am about to teach you many lessons, in an attempt to mentor you, because your thought process is flawed and not based upon sound logic. You start off with personal insults against me. You've lost before you've started. You've entered the world of what I call "the emotional" -- which suppresses your ability to make decisions based upon logic. You're now spinning, dizzily, trying to find your way, but you can't base your post upon logic, but instead resort to the lowest common denominator, the personal insult. In a way, you just justified what I was saying since the beginning. The media started off by trying to assassinate Zimmerman's character. They said he had a record (he does not), that he was an "overzealous" neighborhood watch captain, placed an exaggerated number of calls to 911 in a falsified time period, etc. All irrelevant information to the case. Now we find out that Trayvon Martin didn't live the squeaky clean "Hollister lifestyle" that he was initially portrayed as. Of course that's not a death sentence, but it exposes the shocking hypocritical nature of those who were assassinating Zimmerman's character earlier. (the only difference is we don't have evidence to refute Martin's past transgressions...) Agreed that Martin's background wasn't material to what happened that night (unless he was perhaps aggressive/anxious due to him executing a drug deal or about to steal something, which it appears is consistent with his background, based on today's details that have come to light). Neither was the attempted character assassination that Martin's lawyer and the media attempted earlier. Thanks for proving one of my early points. ...and Zimmerman had every right to pursue and talk to Martin. We don't know that Zimmerman stereotyped Martin. We don't. There are no facts to prove that. Zimmerman had a right to pursue Martin -- the non-emergency number dispatcher could not revoke that right from Zimmerman. That's a fact. I don't teach people to initiate problems, not for adults to fight children. You just made that up and it is not based upon facts. I guess you were trying to be funny here, but it's wrong. Losing a fight isn't the standard. I hope you've learned something by this -- I have been proven right in this thread. I've asked for all the facts since the beginning. You and others have taken an incomplete set of facts, and due to the common biases of "sequencing" (e.g., you jumped to conclusions based on the initial biased media reports) and "consistency rather than completeness" (e.g., your intellectual laziness led to you being content by putting together way too few data points and forming an immovable conclusion, rather than compiling all the necessary facts to make a judgment). You're welcome for this post.
Now Jesse Jackson is comparing Sanford officials to none other than Pontius Pilate. Hey Jesse, I know it's not helpful to your cause, but how about we gather all the facts before evoking a biblical analogy. Disgusting. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/la-na-nn-trayvon-martin-crowd-commision-20120326,0,4074882.story Trayvon Martin case: In Sanford, Fla., thousands speak as one By Richard Fausset 9:11 p.m. CDT, March 26, 2012 SANFORD, Fla. -- The nation’s leading civil rights advocates and hundreds of outraged people packed this laid-back lakeside community Monday to demand the arrest of the man who killed African American teenager Trayvon Martin, even as city police sources revealed details of the confrontation that portrayed the unarmed Martin as the aggressor. Beneath an incongruously cheerful Florida sun, the passionate but well-behaved crowd marched, chanting and shouting, toward the Sanford civic center, where, inside, the City Commission ceded most of its regularly scheduled meeting to Martin’s grieving parents, their lawyer and a roster of civil rights luminaries. Speakers were largely unsparing in their criticism of the city’s leadership and its handling of a case that, to some, has become a symbol of a lingering American racism and a justice system that too often fails black victims of violence. Ads by Google The Rev. Jesse Jackson compared city leaders to Pontius Pilate for failing to arrest George Zimmerman, the man who said he shot down Martin in self-defense after reporting him to police as a suspicious person, and then apparently confronting him. Pilate, Jackson said, was just as guilty “as those who held the hammer and the nail.” Marc Morial, president of the National Urban League, compared the case to the notorious 1955 lynching of Emmett Till, in Mississippi, which catalyzed the midcentury civil rights movement. “We will not rest, we will not stop, until there is justice for Trayvon Martin,” he said. The Rev. Al Sharpton warned that sleepy Sanford, on the shores of Lake Monroe just north of Orlando, was flirting with worldwide infamy. “Sanford is a beautiful city,” Sharpton told the commission, but “you are risking going down as the Birmingham and Selma of the 21st century.” It was a largely, but not exclusively, African American crowd. Lanny Lamb, 74, a white retiree who grew up in Texas, hobbled along in a Hawaiian shirt and Panama hat, a fat cigar between his fingers. “There’s no legalized murder,” Lamb said in a booming Texas basso, saying he was unable to march in civil rights demonstrations in decades past because he was in the Navy at the time. “This is my chance to stand up and do what’s right.”
Sad news if the police were indeed not interested in witness statements that differed from Zimmerman's. http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/03/21/v-print/142736/commission-votes-no-confidence.html Martin's family has every right to be upset.
Nope. I notice you and your ex-wife make these comments without really adding any substance to the discussion.
He's the troll? Suuuure. It's sad to see people smearing the reputation of a dead kid. People need to grow up.
More news that would trouble those trying to slander Martin. The photo of the kid shooting the finger at the camera wasn't even Trayvon Martin. Ooops! Looks like people trying to use this image got caught up in the hype, instead of waiting for the facts. What a shame.
That's really unfair and I think you know that. The more accurate interpretation is to say that the p9lice found some pieces of evidence more useful than others. For example, this one lady who says she heard Trayvon scream - how does she know it was Trayvon? She did not witness him screaming, she heard the scream. But what makes her qualified to determine if it were Trayvon or Zimmerman? Did she know either of them? Had she ever heard either scream? And quite frankly, her assertiveness in continually phoning the police is a bit weird. It looks like she was on the initial witness list. They took her statement. She sounds like she wanted to be fawned over by the police and she is because she wasn't. Yeah, I know that's speculative, but something aint right about her account.
Unfortunate and sad but I'm tired of people posting pics of themselves in a Hoodie saying "I'm Trayvon Martin" OR "Am I next"? Half of the people have a better chance of getting shot in their own community by their own people than having what happened to Martin happen to them. Most people are doing this for attention and probably don't care about Trayvon Martin.
Funny the thought of you telling me to prepare my anus. Any skeletons you want to get out before I officially get started? This shouldn't be too hard. I am not emotional. At very least I am more connected to the issue at hand being that it affects my community everyday being that I live in Sanford. As for insulting you. At least I am man enough to do it outright, and not hide behind plays on words, or innuendo. I can sum you up in one word if you don't like insult"s". Coward. What you so simplistically fail to either realize, or purposefully skate is that even if Martin had smoked weed, or stole from lockers those infractions have no bearing at all on weather he should of been followed to begin with. Zimmerman couldn't possibly of known any of that before hand so admittedly he followed him because he was black. What you also fail to add is that Zimmerman does have a violent past. "In 2005, a woman filed a petition for an injunction against Zimmerman, claiming that he came to her house and became violent when she told him to leave, the Orlando Sentinel reports. Zimmerman, 21 at the time, filed a petition of his own in response. Just a month before that, the paper reports, Zimmerman was at a bar near the University of Central Florida when a friend was arrested on suspicion of serving minors. Zimmerman became profane and pushed a law enforcement agent who tried to escort him away. He was arrested after a short struggle. That arrest had been reported previously." This DOES have a bearing on what happened that day. It clearly shows that Zimmerman has a history of anger management issues. He clearly does not listen to guideline set before him and claims a struggle took place at his truck and then ends up a hundred yards away. How does you mind work this out. Zimmerman made six calls to 911 the week before the Martin incident. Reading over his call log its amazing how many are "black" and no incidents labeled as "white". This shows a clear pattern. Maybe not in your racist world, but to the most of the sane world it does. There you go again. Based on what consistent background. POSSIBLE weed in a backpack and some ear rings and rings he possibly stole. A possible drug deal? Because he was found with skittles and tea. No large sums of money. This is where you come off as an idiot. One part tells me...no way any person with an intelligence level above that of a monkey believes this is a reason the fight took place another tells me that its blind racism on your part because he is black and once had weed like substance possibly in his backpack. Newsflash to Tess. I would wager more white people smoke weed than black people. Doesn't make you a danger. So we now know you have the mental capacity that lies somewhere between a rock and a monkey. That's because you can't prove an ideology. You can hear in his 911 call that he makes a stereotyping remark. You can see from his 911 logs he even went so far as to call 911 on a suspicious 7 year old black kid. Or that a very large chunk of his calls were due to "black" people. You would have to be blind to the obvious if you think he didn't stereotype Trayvon. Because we are all just as sure as you are that he wouldn't of called 911 over a white kid walking down the street with a bag of skittles and a tea. Can YOU tell me for what reason Trayvon should of been followed for? Give me one semi decent reason. I challenge you to figure one out. The facts are he went to the store. Bought a bag of candy and tea and was walking home, while on the phone with his girlfriend. What possible explanation can Zimmerman give for calling the police or following Trayvon. Ill eagerly await your response. You sir are what I tell my kids, is considered a moron. You are welcome for this beatdown.
