Actually I haven't seen those witnesses' information. Please provide a link. I've read all the pages in this thread and have not located that witness testimony. Did I touch a nerve with you? Are you upset for some reason? Does the additional evidence that has recently come to light bother you?
You do know there is a big difference from public school football player and nfl players right? Heck my brother was a 5'9 170lbs QB in HS. He wasn't physically imposing. Dude looks pretty damn skinny. And slim is generally reserved for somebody skinny. Even at 160 lbs at 6'3" that is obviously a very skinny individual.
Actually that is not true. The back of His head was being slammed against the concrete sidewalk. He was with in his legal right to use terminal force to stop the unlawful attack against him. If you don't like the law then start the process to change it but that is the law.
Not according to the witnesses who claimed that Zimmerman was on top of Martin with his hands on Martin's back holding him down. The one witness who says Martin was the aggressor, isn't on the record and is an anonymous witness. In addition we have the person who was on the phone with Martin at the time of the incident that also contradicts what this off the record new witness says. I hope Martin did get in some good licks on Zimmerman before he was killed.
Your not allowed to take a gun into an establishment that serves alcohol even if you have a license unless you are an officer of the law.
Inconclusive. Could have been after the shot. need a link Actually her testimony wasn't conclusive, as a punch thrown from Martin could have dislodged the headset. Ok now you're just being hateful. Your bias is clear.
The parents did a great job under the circumstances of getting the story out and noticed by the national media which allowed for additonal investigations to get underway. However, now is the time to step back and take a deep breath because the event is spiraling completely out of control. The FBI and a state grand jury are investigating and both have a microscope on their work -- I expect the incident will be thoroughly and accurately examined. It could very well be the case that there is more to this story than a white vigilante out for the blood of a black man, which has become the narrative. The black panthers putting a 'dead or alive' bounty out on Zimmerman should be a criminal offense -- how is that even legal?
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/n...,4845076.story According to this article Treyvon punched Martin, knocked him to the ground, slammed the back of his head on the concrete sidewalk while Zimmerman was trying to get back to his car. Appearently Zimmerman cried for help before pulling his gun and fatally shooting Treyvon. There is physical evidence supporting this accusation. So are you really wanting to disregard the physical evidence, due process, a witness and just arrest Zimmerman? Understand that there is both physical evidence and a witness to support Zimmerman.
Yes, because he has trouble processing this in his brain due to FB being exposed to a different story first. It's the sequencing effect that I described earlier. A clear bias on the part of FB.
It was after he shot him. It was a witnesses statement about what occurred directly following the shot. That Zimmerman did absolutely nothing to try and help Martin after shooting him.
What about at pickup basketball court? When I was younger, I played in several pickup games where hard fouls resulted in a body slam once and a punch another time. Are you allow to pull out guns then?
Yet, Zimmerman's injuries were so minor that he needed zero attention from a medical doctor. There is conclusive evidence that the altercation started not while he was headed back to the car but after he confronted Martin. There is no physical evidence Zimmerman was headed back to his car, or that his life was in danger. There are phone records and witnesses that claim otherwise.
One moment they are in a yard, another they are in an alley between houses, and then they are on the sidewalk? They should make up their minds. Everything that supports Zimmerman, and Zimmerman's own story lead to manslaughter, IMO. If he gets off, it will mean the repeal/alteration of the "stand your ground" law.
You've established a standard of "requiring a medical doctor", which is not accurate. Therefore your point is invalid.
Yes. The federal government has opened a case ...as they should. That said, I think they won't find anything. But because it sounds like the police misapplied the law, I suspect some folks will at least lose their jobs. But an investigation needs to happen first. THIS is where the mob mentality has impacted the case because two law enforcement officers have already stepped down due to pressure (some would say, rightfully so) but the investigation will determine if they can keep their jobs.
I wasn't trying to establish a standard of anything. Just pointing out that most life threatening physical violence would require the attention of a medical doctor. Zimmerman was treated by paramedics and received some first aid. End of the story.
Florida law allows you to defend yourself with terminal force if neccesary. I don't think the law makes any allowances in regard to where the assault occurred. Regardless if hit happens on a sidewalk or basketball court makes no difference.
