Where has the Saudi government said that it hates Jews? or where has the Palestinian Authority stated it? "substantiated".
If you had not already ripped off your pseudo-reasonable mask many times yourself, this would once again serve to show everyone where you stand. http://fighthatred.com/recent-events/national-political-hate/742-ahmadinejad-jews-arent-human
http://www.gulfinstitute.org/index....for-teaching-hate&catid=26:articles&Itemid=23 "The Jews worship the devil," the teachers tell 8th-graders. Later, in 10th-grade history class, students will learn that the Jews were responsible for the French Revolution and, of course, the Bolshevik Revolution. These are mild examples of the blatantly untrue "information" systematically taught in schools across Saudi Arabia. It is no wonder anti-Semitism is still alive and well. Every year, the Saudi education system breeds a new pool of extremists. Students are taught to hate Jews and Christians (as well as people of other religions) and encouraged to act violently against them. In a 9th-grade textbook on selected Hadiths, or sayings by the Prophet, students learn that "The [hour of judgment] will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them." It says "there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him." The Saudi curricula includes false lessons on historical events -- such as the "fact" that Jews instigated World War I. An 8th grade Saudi textbook teaches students that Jews and Christians were "punished by being turned into apes and swine" for "losing their religion" during the pre-Islamic era. These texts also instruct children that Muslims are engaged in an existential battle against both Jews and Christians in a never-ending global jihad -- which is essentially the same line as al Qaeda. And the Saudis export these textbooks for use around the world. They are mainstays in Saudi schools throughout Europe and, until recently, the United States. For nearly nine years, the Institute for Gulf Affairs has issued reports and articles and lobbied Congress to push for Saudi education reform. Saudi officials have occasionally claimed to have addressed the problem, yet textbooks and lesson plans remain unchanged. The reluctance to address the hatemongering in the curriculum recalls Osama bin Laden's complaint that the United States is trying to "change morals of the Muslims to become more tolerant." In 2003 and again in 2005, Adel al-Jubeir, the Saudi ambassador to the US, reported that Saudi Arabia was making progress with removing hateful and incorrect teachings from Saudi textbooks. In 2005, Prince Turki al-Faisal, a former Saudi ambassador to the US, said he'd "look into these allegations." But time and again, Saudi Arabia has made no changes or reforms. Faisal bin Abdullah bin Mohammad, the Saudi minister of education, bears direct official responsibility for the content of these textbooks -- and is now in the United States, traveling with King Abdullah and meeting with President Obama. The Immigration and Neutrality Act explicitly empowers the US government to prevent the entrance into the United States of individuals responsible for acts of religious intolerance or violence. We should expel Faisal -- and consider a broader ban on Saudi officials connected in any way to the schools -- to pressure the Saudi government to finally stop its hatemongering. Yes, Faisal bin Adbullah is the son-in-law and a close aide of Saudi King Abdullah; expelling him would be confrontational. But indoctrinating millions of young minds with hatred and violence against the West has bred whole generations of extremists -- and still does. Our government should be confrontational about it. Entry bans are a tried-and-true tactic. In 2005, the State Department denied a diplomatic visa to Naredra Modi, the chief minister in India's Gujarat province, because of his involvement in religious riots in 2002 that claimed nearly 2,000 lives. The Saudi textbooks' violent content easily meet the fomenting-religious-intolerance test of US law and thus warrant the revocation of Faisal bin Abdullah's visa. It's no surprise that Saudi Arabia is the world's most fertile exporter of suicide bombers and other terrorists: Its education system teaches hatred of the West. Expelling the Saudi education minister from the United States will send a strong message to the Saudi government that this has to change.
Maybe ATW can embrace the fact both Germans and Muslims hate Jews and forget their other differences.
I don't personally find anything funny about this nefarious French plot, nor Andorran anti-semitism, but whatever cracks you up.
Many parts of Europe hate Jews & Muslims ... Don't ATW and Mathoom, there is enough hate to spread around.
What a sad graph that is. So much intollerance. It is pathetic. A couple of things are interesting: 1: Why would they only use the muslims in Muslim dominated country? I wonder what the the percentage would look if they only used Christians in the predominantly christian countries or only jews in Israel. My guess is the percentage would be much lower (hopefully not as low as some other countries). 2: So in Europe the anti-muslim sentiment is indeed much more prominent than the anti-semitism.
Good questions, but you forgot a third, and most obvious thing that is interesting in that graph. Hint: Except for the Turkish view on Christians, there are only 7 single-digit numbers in that graph. What do they have in common? And the next question is, if that is indeed the attitude in these countries a lot of the immigrants come from, do you think these immigrants shed that attitude, once they leave their home country? And if not, do you not think that that can cause problems in a society that is supposed to be built on tolerance?
I repeat, show me where a government has stated that it hates Jews? Don't find me quotes of teachers who are part of a ministry in a country who refer to a religious book from 1,500 years ago which contains sentences which may be misread as Jew-hate. Is there a quote from a person who is authorised to represent a government where that person has said that their government hates Jews? That is the claim, back it up otherwise no one is interested in your personal attacks and your seizing such opportunities to bash Muslims with intentionally irrelevant or inaccurate responses and posts. If you were interested in the topic at hand, you would be happy that there is no such government, and it would piss you off that people say it's true when it's not. But you're not, you're not and it doesn't.
I wanted to repeat that Germany and Germans have murdered by an incredibly wide margin more Jews than anyone. Germany has killed around 6 million Jews since the 40's. Unless Mr Nejad is reading, I don't think a source is required for this one. 6 million or roughly 40% of the 15 million TOTAL population of Jews in the world just before the war. TOTAL Israeli casualties killed including miscellaneous engagements and terrorist attacks of war and terrorism since 1948 is around 50,000. Even the most extremist Israeli institutions with maximum bias don't seem to claim more than 100,000 casualties. So by deduction since not every Israeli is a Jew, it's between 20,000 and 100,000. Obviously this is less than even a few % of 15 million (population is roughly the same now as it was pre-war). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_casualties_of_war Palestinian figures range betweem 50,000 to hundreds of thousands of Palestianians since the 40's. Since the data is so poor, this number is slowly escalating and I've heard it being as low as tens of thousands to as high as hundreds of thousands since 1940. For our American followers, to provide further contrast, September 9/11 was an attack in which less than 10,000 people were lost. Most estimates are closer to 3,000. FYI Over 7,000 Palestinians have been killed since then. (Yes I know they are unrelated, I'm just providing context for the magnitude of the numbers). THAT'S Europe's blindspot. Some of us are old enough to know these numbers, some of us are not, some of us will research them, but only some of us can hail from one of these countries and makes a massive statement like: "Who are the countries which hate Jews the most??" or however the hell he paraphrased it. When it's precisely this type of categorization which was used to punish and torment the Jews in Germany. Pick up a book buddy.
I already did. Your beloved president of Iran has made numerous such statements. And a government is responsible for the textbooks it hands out to its children. The minister who is responsible for that is a direct relative of the king in Saudi-Arabia. Since when is a minister not a government member? Are you seriously trying to lie again to everyone and insinuate that such sentiment is not prominent among Arab governments?
What preposterous bull**** to write "since the 40's". Everyone can look right through your lying act. Everyone who knows a bit of history knows that that was the Nazi regime that was fortunately displaced for good in 1945. The holocaust (which is denied by your beloved brother in spirit Ahmadinejad) took place until then. That was 67 years ago. To write "since the 40's" just shows what a disgusting propaganda scam artist you are trying to be. But then you come to Germany when you want medical help. Disgusting.
Please, everyone who reads this thread, note what Mathloom is trying to do. That quote is telling you everything you will ever need to know about the sincerity of Mathloom. Mathloom is a wannabe propaganda artist who will lie through his teeth - all the time. If anyone ever treats this scumbag as someone sincere again, I will pull up this quote. Utterly disgusting.
Yes Ahmedinejjad personally may hate the Jews of some period in history and he may hate Zionism and he may hate Israel. We can start a thread for each of those things. But for the government of Iran to hate Jews, the governmen of Iran would have to have in its constitution that it hates Jews. Alternatively, it could be that a spokesperson authorised by the Supreme Leader (the real leader of the country) to speak on behalf of the Iranian government and he said that the government hates Jews or implied it very strongly. Neither of these things have happened. If Obama is caught on tape saying that he hates atheists, does that mean the American government hates atheists ORRRRRRRR does it mean the American president hates atheists and therefore the people in government who he selects by hand may potentially be racist (if even that)? Be realistic. He wants to wipe Israel off the face of the planet and he wants to establish a Palestinian State in which he claims Jews or anyone can live peacefully. It's not a popular opinion, and no one believes him. But that doesn't mean that he hates everyone who is a Jew. It means he believes Israel should have never been granted administrative control of that geographic peace of land. It is not a coincidence that in those quotes in ATW's link, the word Jew always seems to be outside the quotations. Peace.
Listen to this scam artist trying to spin things. It's so ridiculous that I am glad he is doing it so the few people who might still be here who take this guy seriously can see through his act.
