all I have left now? are you confusing me with someone else? When someone points out that you can't even communicate in your native language you just accuse them of supporting murder?
Uh... Yeah. Obama is ethnically as white as he is black. I don't understand why people call him our first black president, when he's actually our first half-white president, compared to the full-white standard. Not sure what you're implying here.
Agreed unless Zimmerman lost him, gave up pursuit and then was confronted by Martin, with Martin wanting to know why Zimmerman was following him. I personally think it is less likely than Zimmerman simply confronting Martin. However, I can tell you, having practiced law, things sometimes are far different than expected. I am fairly certain I know where this is headed but will be open minded as more evidence is still coming in. Let's just say I wouldn't want to be Zimmerman's counsel.
I don't know who was at fault here but there are certain questions that need to be answered. - Who was the aggressor? - Who attacked who first? - Was it self-defense? If so how do we know? If not, how do we know? - Does anyone still believe in innocent until proven guilty? - Should the court of public opinion play a part in convicting Zimmerman or should it be based strictly on the facts? If there is evidence that it was not self defense then Zimmerman should be taken into custody just like anyone else. If there is no proof then he should not be arrested until there is proof. The fact that Treyvon was 17 should play no role in Zimmermans guilt or innocence. There just seems to be a lynch mob mentality going on here and that rarely leads to justice. If Zimmerman is guilty then hang his ass but lets do it the right way.
Think of it this way, 200 years ago Obama would have been picking cotton. He wouldn't be, say, a banker. The man is black. There is probably 4 fully black people in this country. That said, Hispanics are not held to that same standard since many Hispanics consider themselves and outwardly appear to be white. Many Argintines, for example, are Hispanic but they appear to be European. See, things are not so clear cut. Stop trying to make rules. Sometimes it's okay to just accept things at face value. ...but we digress.
He is called our first black president because it makes for a better story... The same reason has/was repeatedly called white, regardless of the fact Zimmerman was biracial and viewed himself as Hispanic.
http://gma.yahoo.com/trayvon-martin-shooter-couldnt-stop-crying-shooting-112227880--abc-news.html The really sad thing is that this is turning into a witch hunt now. I would hope all of us would see this as illegal. People are going as far as possible to paint this as a race crime and to make this about black and white. That in itself is very sad. Let the justice system do its job and arrest then individuals who have broken the law by placing an illegal $10000 bounty for someone who has yet to be charged with a crime.
I didn't look into this story at all until the Brady Group started exploiting it for retreat laws. At first I automatically assumed guilty based on initial reports but the media really fugged up here because their subpar reporting has people enraged to violence and on the other side questioning everything.
No link, was googling to try to get more info and came across this on what I could only assume was one of the most racist forums I've ever seen disguised as a "conservative" site. Like you said, just trying to make a point.
Lmfao ... Obama is biracial and was raised by a white mother and grandparents. If he views himself as black, then so be it, I can respect his wishes. Zimmerman's own father said that his son views himself as Hispanic. In both cases they are biracial.
Because anywhere Obama would have gone prior to being nationally known, he would have been viewed as a black man.
What? He's more white than black. MUCH more influence from whites during his upbringing than blacks, since his father wasn't active in his childhood. He tried to align himself with Jeremiah Wright to establish some "cred" in the black community....then conveniently ditched Wright when it wasn't helpful to his campaign. Pitiful. And picking cotton? Obama's family was more likely to OWN slaves than work as a slave, since his father was over in Mombasa
If he's guilty I wouldn't put the man to death, but if it was in my power he'd spend every waking moment for the rest of his life regretting that night bunked up with the biggest, rape-iest inmate I could match him with.
I see you're back to not waiting for all the facts again. Anyone who looked at Obama growing up would have identified him as black. He faced the same prejudices, and generalizations from those that are prone to them.
Zimmerman was the aggressor. He initiated the entire incident. Therefore he can no longer claim self defense. You can't pick a fight and the shoot the person. Irrelevant. We already know that Zimmerman, in an agitated state, initiated the confrontation. As such, legally it SHOULD be nearly impossible to claim self defense regardless of how the confrontation shook out. We know it wasn't self defense because, legally, if both parties entered into the confrontation willingly then neither party can use deadly forced and claim self defense. Clearly there was a fight, instigated by Zimmerman, so selfe defense should not have been an acceptable response.[/QUOTE] You are not innocent if you admit to shooting someone. At that point, you now need to prove self defense ...not the other way around.
lol you're way off on this. We don't know who started the altercation. That means your argument falls apart completely.
The picture of GZ smiling makes him look older And stronger and doesn't do him more justice. Looks like a police academy photo. The mugshot makes him look softer and more child like. Trayvon looks more skinny and poser like. Like a street kid that can't fight but wants to be tough.. People who are using the 100 lb argument as a sentiment are a lil more valid. the photos the media ( mugshot) (yearbook) are sending makes George look weak. Based on all the photos doesn't look like trayvon can beat zimmerman in a fight. Of course these are just my opinions on some photos, which aren't relevant to the case. But I like to hear other opinions based on photos and what they perceive.
