The only myths mentioned there are not really any thing different than what we've known. I love the police didn't know about Zimmerman's past as a myth. It isn't clear when they found out. Duh that they know about it now. The question is when did they find out, never if they know. Everybody believed one shot, until the 911 tapes indicated 2. The tapes can't lie, but people can give incorrect testimonies. I don't know if 2 shots were fired or not, but to me that isn't important (It probably would be important to whether or not there is grounds for murder).
No, that couldn't have been after this incident as it is a mugshot and there are no contemporary mugshots as Zimmerman has yet to be booked or detained in any way yet as a result of the killing of the unarmed teenager. That mugshot was from the last time he was arrested for a violent offense.
he pushed a cop when he was 21. not everyone is as level headed and supportive of the police as batman.
The question this raises in my mind is how on God's green earth did they not run the shooter's license through the system at the scene? They run mine when I get pulled over for speeding. And when pulled over for speeding or some other minor infraction I have even been asked to take a drunk test or breathalyzer whether I'd been drinking or not. I don't resent any of it. It makes perfect sense to me for the sake of the common good. Running a license for a record is common practice with the most basic traffic stop. Deeply considering the question of sobriety in the case of a shooting it seems to me should be common practice as well -- and I'm pretty sure it is. Here, instead, they checked Trayvon for drugs and alcohol and not his shooter. Good lord. Are people suggesting they might not have even run his license before letting him walk away after shooting a man to death?
The matter of George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin is maybe not so good a house of cards on which to balance a pro-police position.
Maybe running a license doesn't immediately pull up supposedly expunged records. Maybe they knew the night of, and just didn't say anything. Who knows? We do know they botched parts of this investigation and were unusually accepting of Zimmerman's story.
I'm not. I'm saying he was arrested in 2005 on a charge of "resisting arrest without violence" which is not a violent offense as you said. It also has an extremely low conviction rate and is probably abused by police. IF you make a cop mad, he will probably arrest and charge you with that. also "last time he was arrested" should be "only time he was arrested"
I don't know they ran the license and I don't know what they might have found if so. I'm just surprised it's even at question. In Texas, by the way, it is possible for expunged records to appear on a simple license check. I've been confronted by a traffic cop in the past for an expunged case against me that occurred years before. I'd be interested to hear from an expert on this, because I am not one, but my assumption was that cops could see expunged records but that perhaps they didn't appear on background checks. But that is only a guess.
Link But while we're here lets bring in another new witness with another new twist - 13 year old dogwalker Austin McLendon was originally reported as having seen Zimmerman on the ground: Zimmerman told police he acted in self-defense. Police found blood on his face and the back of his head as well as grass on the back of his shirt. That jibes with what Cheryl Brown's teenage son witnessed while walking his dog that night. Thirteen-year-old Austin stepped out his front door and heard people fighting, he told the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday. "I heard screaming and crying for help," he said. "I heard, 'Help me.' " It was dark, and the boy did not see how the fight started, in fact, he only saw one person, a man in a red shirt — Zimmerman — who was on the ground. The boy said he is not sure who called for help. After a moment, his dog escaped, and he turned to catch it and a few seconds later heard a gunshot, he said. "When I heard the shot, the screaming stopped," he said. He then rushed inside and told his sister to call police. He and his sister are also on the 911 calls; I forget which number, and it was inconclusive. Eventually, he backed away from his story as new information emerged.
Expunged or not you never get rid of arrest records which you would think would show up. We don't have any real evidence the police didn't know about his arrest though.
I don't have any interest in arguing whether or not pushing a cop should be characterized as "violence." You can win that one if you want. I'm much more troubled by your second paragraph. I disagree vehemently that it 'should be' the only time he was arrested. He should have been arrested for killing an unarmed man, whether he had a valid self-defense argument or not.
I was correcting your statement of "That mugshot was from the last time he was arrested for a violent offense." it was wrong on two fronts.
You lie It was resisting arrest without violence hate to bother you to actually read the facts, but they're in the below link try to not be so intellectually lazy -- it causes you to just make stuff up in your head, like you did here. http://www.bostonherald.com/news/na...s_myths_half_truths/srvc=home&position=recent
He could see the man laying on the ground, but not the teenager standing over him as the Fox news witness said occurred?
and by the way -- bloop's post was an epic beatdown of Batman Jones, sjackson0, Damion Laverne, Lil Pun, across110thstreet, Rocket River, and Krosfyah. ya just got pwn3d homies
This seems to be the basic consensus: Zimmerman shouts f'ing coon and goes after Trayvon after repeatedly being told not to and during the time where Trayvon is running away and not generating or instigating any sort of violence towards Zimmerman. Zimmerman chases Trayvon and begins to either start threatening him or just simply asking questions. Point being Zimmerman used some sort of force to stop Trayvon who was running away. Trayvon kicks his fat ass, with no knowledge of Zimmerman's concealed weapon, and when Zimmerman gets a chance he shoots Trayvon without giving him any sort of warning (which would obviously have been enough to stop Trayvon). Self-defense? Seems like the dude tried to harass the kid, got beat up for it, and then shot him to defend his pride/honor/who knows? Don't blame the neighbors for not going outside to help either party. If I heard a damn gunshot and didn't have a gun myself I'd have stayed inside.
