The Knicks under Isiah Thomas made the playoffs one time, and got swept. Meanwhile, the Knicks under Donnie Walsh made the playoffs one time, and got swept. Under deshen's logic, Isiah Thomas was just as good of a GM as Donnie Walsh.
I dont think you can point to things like not signing a big name free agent in 2010 or not hiring Thibs as mistakes on Moreys part. Thibs chose DRose and the Bulls. Bosh & LeBron chose Dwade and the Heat. It was Morey's job to recruit but in the end their decisions to make. I don't care how good you are as a GM, your smooth talking ways are not going to trump DRose or DWade. If you want to say he is a failure because he hasn't landed a superstar then fine, so be it. But keep in mind there are only a few superstars and 30 teams. Its not like they are constantly available. What he has done in the mean time though has been stellar. Sure he has made a few mistakes, but in a succession of moves he has done things like turn Brooks + Battier into Parsons, Dragic, Donotas and picks. Brooks isnt even in the league anymore and was always undersized and Battier is a declining one dimensional player at this point. I'm just glad the days of handing out ridiculous contracts to the Mo Taylors or the world are over. And its nice to see our draft picks actually contribute to our team rather then be out of the league after their rookie contracts are up.
Some facts about winning for the Rockets under Morey: From 2006-07 through 2008-09, the Rockets won more regular season games (160) than in any three-year run in the history of the franchise. Houston registered a 53-29 mark in 2008-09 to give the team a third consecutive 50-win season for the first time in team annals (52-30 in 2006-07 and 55-27 in 2007-08). In the 2009 NBA Playoffs, the Rockets advanced to the Western Conference Semifinals for the first time since 1997, taking the eventual NBA Champion L.A. Lakers to a Game Seven despite playing without Tracy McGrady and losing the services of Yao Ming for the final four contests of that series. In 2007-08, the Rockets won 22 straight games, which stands as the third-longest winning streak in professional sports history. Despite the loss of Yao for the entire in 2009-10 campaign, the Rockets maintained their winning edge with a 42-40 mark to become the only team in the previous 20 NBA seasons to finish above .500 without an All-Star. Everyone, including Morey, knows the team isn't where we want it to be as far as being a contender. But explain to me how a "good GM" from a different team would have the Rockets consistently in the playoffs and taking the Rockets to at least the conference finals after losing Yao and Tmac to injuries? Morey doesn't get a pass for life due to these circumstances, nor does that mean that future mistakes won't cause us to question him. It does mean that the mistakes most of the critics in this thread are questioning him about are trivial in comparison to what he has done right under the circumstances, and that the complainers tend to do a very poor job explaining how a different GM would have done better. At the very least list your ideal replacement GM for Morey and then go make a top 10 mistakes list for him for us to compare.
hmm, that is a lot of things. more excuse imo. What is the percentage under Morey as GM that rockets won playoff spot? That is the number that really matters. I doubt that would be high.
You know what? I change my mind on Morey. I will hold off on him to see what happens after this season. Dragic, Lee, Lowry, Patterson, Parsons might mean he is on to something. I am just gonna wait to see his plan unfold for one more year before I say anything negative about the GM who has amassed young underrated prospects up and down this lineup. Wait to see what he does with Kevin Martin and these draft picks.
This argument always boils down to the same illogical argument from unknowledgeable fans: we should have traded Yao and TMac 2 years after they were brought together.
btw, We have 15 teams in this conference and 8 of them or more than half of all teams will be in playoffs. it is not a high expectation in any standard.
Your position is that Morey is the faulty component - that he is primarily responsible for the Rockets being mediocre and that if we replaced him with a GOOD GM, we'd be contending or nearly so right now. Correct?
I like Morey, but I'm disappointed he hasn't managed to exchange some of these "assets" he's been collecting for a real impact player yet. I don't know if that counts as a mistake. Right now it's looking like maybe he should have parted with Lowry to get Gasol here, if that was indeed on the table. He has misjudged things here and there, he hasn't been perfect, but he has stuck to his guns and made some really smart moves for the franchise. The verdict is still out, but for now I think the important question to ask is, how would other potential GMs have done with the Rockets under the same circumstances? Probably not as well.
You all do realize that after next season there is probably going to be a fire sale. The luxury tax will become punitive then. So let's see what Morey does in that time frame.
That's how you measure quality of GM's? percentage the team wins playoff spot? Hell, if Miami fired their GM right now and hired a homeless guy on the street. That homeless man would be the greatest GM of our generation by your logic.
Morey's biggest mistake is creating a special group of fans - also known as sheeps/bots..... when Les will show Morey the door, I hope these bots will follow him wherever city he goes next. Damm Morey, - you will leave the town but we will be stuck with these mindless drones forever............. noooo
This is always projection. The ones you call sheep are always the one with the logical and rational arguments. Honestly I'm not that big a fan of DM's moves as of late (apart from the Parsons pick, which I LOVE), but the blatant "wah! wah! Y Maury gets no superstar?!" b****ing and bellyaching from the idiot posters here in the GARM make me look like a Morey worshipper. If people ask you what the are the mistakes Morey made the complaints are always: 1. Morey should have traded Yao and Tmac for superstars 2. Morey should have drafted a superstar 3. Morey should have recruited a superstar Its pretty much the same thing over and over again, when other posters have already explained no GM could have/would have done those things. Unless you're Troll posters like what, in which case you're complaints are always the insignificant ones like giving Francis a 2M contract or taking Joey Dorsey as an add-in.
