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Trayvon Martin

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. sjackson0

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    This is silly for you to debate... Batman Jones hot it right on the money. You defend these two for days on end, but conveniently never agree with their stance??? What the hell is that?

    Bigtexx and gwayneco (and I believe you) BOTH believe that Zimmerman probably had just cause to shoot Martin whether it’s because he feared for his life, bloody nose...whatever. So by that account, Vlaurelio and others believe that based on how they view the circumstances, they would react the same way as Zimmerman. FEARING FOR THEIR LIVES because a 17 black boy had a dangerous bag of skittles and a hare trigger ice tea.
     
  2. sjackson0

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    LOL..you noticed that too? Just bypass all the FACTS.....skip right to race didn't matter. I swear if a bunch of white people get anywhere near the baby spinach in HEB, I'm gona go the hell off. I'm gona flip my basket!
     
  3. rocketsjudoka

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    That is brilliant. Under the reasoning provided to cast doubt on Zimmerman's guilt you could apply that to the OJ case and even though OJ might've had a knife he acted in self-defense against Ron Goldman and Nicole Simpson.
     
  4. Batman Jones

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    True that.
     
  5. sjackson0

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    Saw story that related to what we are talking about here. Florida guns laws and how citizens have the right to bear arms and defend themselves. In 2010 a tragic event happened where two men got into a confrontation at a park leaving one man dead. A complete travesty. The Tampa police in the case in my opinion got it right in arresting the shooter EVENTHOUGH he claimed self-defense. The victim approach the man who had a gun and a struggle ensued. The gun went off leaving a man dead in front of his daughter and lives changed forever.....

    The shooter was black and claimed self-defense but arrested
    The victim was white and dead
    The state is Florida
    Zimmerman is white/other and claimed self-defense but free
    the victim was black and dead
    The state is Florida

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    Tampa, FL - The Hillsborough County State Attorney's Office released on Monday a handful of discs full of discovery in the case.

    For the first time, we're seeing and hearing the scene of the crime just minutes after it happened on September 26, 2010 at Twin Lakes community in Valrico.

    The state released the video interview with detectives of the 8-year-old daughter of the victim, David James.

    In her own words, the day after the shooting, Danielle James said, "A kid asked if he could skateboard on the other half of the court because we weren't using that side. Then a man came out and told the kid that there was no skateboarding on the court. Then my dad wanted to know where the sign was that said no skateboarding but my dad didn't know he had the gun so my dad came towards him. It is kind of hard to explain the next part."

    The next part is when deputies say the angry neighbor pulled out a gun. They say there was a struggle and the gun went off, shooting David James in the chest.

    Crime scene pictures show yellow tape surrounding the community's basketball courts where resident David James was shot to death in front of his 8-year-old daughter.

    James and his daughter were playing basketball when deputies say a nearby neighbor got angry at a couple of kids who were skateboarding on the courts.

    Witnesses say James defended the kids then, deputies say, that's when the neighbor, Trevor Dooley, pulled out his gun and shot James in the chest.

    One of the skateboarders was the first to call 911.

    In the call, you can hear the child tell the 911 operator, "It was my fault. Well, no, no, no. The person who shot him was mad because I was skateboarding there. The other man was asking what the rules were and I don't know...then he [Dooley] shot him [James]."

    The 911 operator asked, "How do you know he shot him?"

    The caller replied, "I see the blood. I saw the gun. I heard it go off."

    At one point, the operator asks the skateboarder the victim's name. That is when he starts speaking to James' daughter. You can hear her small voice in the background.

    The accused killer, Trevor Dooley, stayed at the scene. The state also released pictures of him wearing blood-soaked jeans.

    Dooley is charged with manslaughter. His next court date is in January.

    Meanwhile, James' family is not waiting for a decision in the criminal case. They filed a civil suit against Dooley for wrongful death
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    great job of using bigtexxx' logic against him.
     
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  7. FranchiseBlade

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    That has been blown out of the water by your own post. You mention the nationality and that people of that nationality need to expect racial profiling, and that you in fact don't even care if it is racial profiling.

    We won't have this argument again. You've been shown up in this thread and in previous threads.
     
  8. bigtexxx

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    Aside from the whole motive thing

    oops

    you just got blown out of the water
     
  9. bigtexxx

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    lol you're so desperate to play this "gotcha game"

    your example proves nothing and it's clear that after 8 years of trying, this is all you attempt to cling to.

    keep trying.
     
  10. FranchiseBlade

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    This thread, and your entire posting history here provide evidence of much more than that.
     
  11. vlaurelio

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    again atw, "same circumstances"

    gwayneco does not own a gun

    bigtexxx, do you own a gun?
     
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    My position is consistent in both cases.

    The facts that are known to me say "guilty" in both cases, regardless of the skin color of the killer and the victim(s).

    I don't think self-defense is a valid justification in either case, if the facts are as we know them now.

    But I wouldn't call anyone a murderer who disagrees. I might be in disbelief that someone else doesn't see it, but it doesn't make me angry at them.
     
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    It is a hypothetical which you use to assassinate their character. Since it is a hypothetical, it is irrelevant whether they actually own a gun.

    Serious question - how old are you? Just curious.

    You seem to have some cognitive difficulties. Perhaps it is due to age.
     
  14. vlaurelio

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    character assassination? coming from an Islam religion assassin LOL

    you're just mad no one feels the same way as you do. even gwayeco.

    just report me to the mods if that will make you sleep better

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    perfect recipe for racist murderers

    1) move to florida or any other state with stand your ground law
    2) appoint self as neighborhood watch
    3) choose your unarmed black victim preferably smaller and younger
    4) call it in to authorities
    5) follow victim no matter what authorities tell you
    6) confront him
    7) have him punch you in the nose since it bleeds easily
    8) go for the kill
    9) wait for your buddies to cover up the crime
     
  18. sjackson0

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    Now it's potentially biased media now how? Your noose is loosening lol
     
  19. AroundTheWorld

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    He could have punched himself in the nose after the fact.
     
  20. vlaurelio

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    fixed
     

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