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Chandler as Point Forward/Guard

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Yodels, Mar 22, 2012.

  1. meh

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    Actually, Adelman's high post player ideally is suppose to be a triple threat(pass, shoot, drive). Something Brad Miller and Webber both were. As for being a center, I'm not sure it's necessary. But Parsons may need to play with someone like Motiejunas who can space the floor rather than a bruiser type of PF. I'm not a big Xs and Os guy, so I'm not sure how exactly it would work. But I do hope the Rockets get creative in putting his skills to work.
     
  2. morpheus133

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    Some of Parsons play reminds me of a young Scottie Pippen's game. Pippen was a tremendous defender with the Bulls and had a decent, but not spectacular offensive game early on. He averaged 7.9 ppg as a rookie and 14.4 in his second year. It's unlikely that Parsons reaches close to what Pippen became in his prime, but there are some aspects of his game which remind me of him. Of course Parsons really needs to get his free throw shooting under control, but unlike Chuck Hayes, or Shaq, there is nothing mechanically broken to suggest that he shouldn't be able to drastically improve there. If anything I think he missed a bunch early on with rookie jitters, and then started thinking about it too much.
     
  3. dobro1229

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    Right, but the player guarding him will most likely be a wing in most scenarios. Even when McHale goes super-small ball with Parsons as the post player.

    This meaning your not creating as much space in the interior for backdoor passes, etc. as you would if you were bringing out the big bruiser, space eater center. The trick of the Adelman offense is making a guy like Dalembert come out to the high post to open up passing lanes for cutting wings. Most teams would just rotate a wing defender on him now if he was coming out to the high post.

    Montiejunas does seem like someone that would be intriguing in those offensive sets, but that is yet to be seen. Have to get him PT in the NBA before we assume anyting, but he's def. the most exciting prospect the Rockets have drafted since Yao probably IMO.
     
  4. Rocketeer

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    Ok, I LOVE Parsons but his ball handling skills are not good enough to bring the ball up throughout the game. He has great handles for a guy his size at almost 6'10" and can put in on the floor from the 3pt line but I can see many teams pressuring the ball if he's running it.
     
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    You could have Lee or Martin bring the ball up, and hand it off to Parsons at the top.
     
  6. TEXNIFICENT

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    This is just not a good idea. Good SF but not a PG.
     
  7. Rocketeer

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    Don't they already do that? Maybe they should just say they are going to run more plays through Parsons then? I just don't see the need to make him play point forward when you already have good PG play. Chandler is a great passer and most of the times he makes the right plays. Just give him more touches.
     
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    Yeah, my bad...i was trying to imply he's got enough ball handling skills to be a point forward.



    You'd have to trust that he's smart enough to recognize it in time and push the ball head with the correct pass, which i thnk he is.
     
  9. Deckard

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    I love the role Chandler's playing and think McHale is making excellent use of his talents. Gotta say, though, that I'd prefer neither Parsons or Lee ever playing point, except for brief periods during a game. Lee hasn't impressed me when he's been at the one (or the 3), but is a starting quality 2 guard. I guess if I had to choose between the two, I'd say Chandler, but let's keep them in the roles they have.
     
  10. what

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    man, yall are crazy; this guy has been in the league a half a second and now he can run an entire offense. Come on now. Somebody's gotta think this is crazy talk.
     
  11. Prince

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    how about McHale as coach/center? :)
     
  12. dobro1229

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    Maybe its just the eye test, and maybe Durvasa can whip up some awesome stat to prove it, but when Parsons facilitates the offense, everything just runs smoother. He just always puts the ball where it needs to go.

    He played that way with Florida and it was a huge reason for their success, and we are getting a taste of it here with the Rockets, but with much better offensive weapons surrounding him.

    Like Ive said before (and i think someone uses it as their sig), Parsons is no Lebron. Never will be, but Lebron is an example of a player that an NBA offense "runs through."

    When he is allowed to make the first or second pass in the offensive set, things just run very smooth, and the offense should run through him as if he is a Lebron type of player. Its not always the flashy pass this team needs, its the effective one to the right player, in the right position, at the right time.

    He might not be the one to bring the ball up the court like a PG does, but until Lowry gets back healthy I personally believe that the offense should run through Parsons when they get into their halfcourt offensive sets. Hope that helps explain the X's and O's a little bit and explains the reasoning of why it seems everyone is getting a man-crush over this guy.
     
  13. Garner

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    Bullard just said he may be seeing some burn at PG
     
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    Exactly, everybody knows Gay is not on Durant's level.
     
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    I know Parsons doesn't have the physical skills Lebron has, but honestly I think Lebron is the best comparison for Parsons at this point.
     
  16. jopatmc

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    Lebron James' assist/turnover ratio as a rookie was 1.7

    Durant's and Melo's A/TO ratio as rookies were both below 1.0

    Tayshaun Prince's A/TO ratio in his second season was 1.6 (didn't play much his rookie season)

    Iggy's rookie A/TO ratio was 1.76



    In comparing assists,

    in his rookie season, Lebron averaged 5.36 assists per 36 minutes.
    Chandler is averagin 2.77 assists per 36 minutes.

    Just to give a little perspective, Lebron was operating the offense from teh top as the point. Parsons is essentially operating as the 3rd handler on the floor behind the PG and the SG.

    At the very least, Parsons is going to be very interesting to watch develop. He's not in lebron's class. No player in NBA history is. But I would take a rookie Parsons over a rookie Andre Iguodala at this point for sure.
     
  17. houstunnin

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    <<<< I will Run PG/SG. For Rockets =)...MMhMmm...#rednation #htownforlife!!!!!!!
     
  18. dobro1229

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    Good stuff Jopatmc. I should have never mentioned Chandler and Lebron in the same conversation. Obviously not fair, but fun to compare for sure.
     
  19. Burko

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    I agree.


    He definitely has the handling skills, i dont know about him being a point forward, but having the offense running through him more would work.
     
  20. Old Man Rock

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    Yeah it's a little crazy. I think Parsons is a great draft pick and now that he is shooting better a long time starter. But to think he can somehow stay in front of the Chris Pauls and Derrixk Rose's of the league is too much. Now I can see using him sparingly for spot defense on a hot player.

    He is that good that he could pull it off for a while. But this is a league that quickly learns to exploit weaknesses. If you play Parsons long minutes at pg it won't be long before guards learn they are mostly faster than Parsons and mostly more elusive.

    Even now most of the league doesn't know you can't shoot over him he is just too long. If you want to score you better try blowing buy him nd that is no easy task either but better than trying to shoot over him.

    Still the fact that Mchale might even consider show how valuable he thinks this kid is and that's not crazy at all!
     

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