This draft is overrated just like every draft is overrated. Nobody thinks half the guys in the draft are busts, but they generally are. At one point Josh McRoberts was considered a top 5 pick.
3rd time's the charm Can i just say that: just because i would like to see us have three 1st rounders this year does not mean that i want 3 rookies on the roster. I really do believe that we can package these picks to move up and get a "special" player, or at least trade one for a future pick that may turn out to be better. Having three draft picks is not a curse.
Also coach's don't like to play too many rookies. Remember back to Yao and Boki's rookie year. Before the season began, Rudy said Boki wasn't going to play that year. The next year was supposed to be Boki's real rookie season. When JVG came along and it didn't happen he asked for a trade.
I am a true rockets fan, and i'd hate to say i'd prefer them to lose but i do. If we miss the playoffs these are our potential picks, Rox- 13/14 NYK- 14/16 Mavs- 21/23. Those picks have serious value, we could easily get into the top 5 this year if we tried. Isn't that what we have been wanting? a top 5 pick in a deep draft, to get a chance at drafting our superstar? It is and i think we should go for it, we don't haft to gut the team or anything so les will be happy as well.
Yeah - where is this option in the poll? Make the playoffs and receive 2 first round picks. 1 star thread - poorly informed poll with weak options to push an agenda.
Hahahaha!!! I actually thought about you when I originally typed it and nearly considered deleting it! :grin: Hey, I already apologized for throwing you under the bus on that. That said, you were still being a jerk. (Still, it was totally uncalled for for me to saddle you with somehow being the reason for my sabbatical. You weren't, and it wasn't fair to you.) Water under the bridge, man.
Already over it, just having a laugh about it. And yes, I can be a jerk at times..... I heard the Jerk store called and they are out of DaDakotas..... DD
PLAYOFFS MAN! Always! There's nothing better than Rockets playoff basketball. Because along with Playoffs come these epic threads. http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=166532
This was a simple little thread, not advocating tanking, just if when the season comes to an end would you be happier with 3 draft picks or making the playoffs. Just a simple poll to get an idea how people feel about something that I am at crossroads with myself. And then you tell me I am oversimplifying my poll and that my poll really should be: No it shouldn't. it's my poll. It should be what I want it to be. If you want that poll go start your on thread and write it just like you want it. Of course I am over simplifying. It's a poll with limited options. I chose to ask those options to get a result that I wanted. This is not Sabermetrics. Morey is not going to see this poll and decide to tank. In addition to raping my poll you're trying to add your flexibility which I do not agree with at all. If I was going to do it your way it wouldn't include that flexibility issue... (A) Miss the playoffs, get 3 first rounders in the middle to late first round, in a stocked draft and combine them to move up in the draft are use them as part of trade to get a superstar NOW! IMO you overvalue Flexibility. I agree flexibility is important but you write how important flexibility is and yet you can't even see those draft picks today give us much more flexibility and much more options. The reason why Golden State won at on Bogut is because they had better assets. The reason why NJ won out on Wallace is because they had better assets. Those draft picks may be exactly what is need to complete a deal with Lowry and whatever to get Dwight Howard, Pau Gasol or some other star and turbocharge the rebuilding process immediately. And do not tell me the draft isn't stocked. Morey wouldn't have been so desperate to get draft picks if he hadn't assessed this was a year to get extra draft picks. You know Morey and I do not agree with you. I can say MOREY and I because if he agreed with you why doesn't he just leave it out of the trade contracts. Instead he wraps it up so much in the deals tying our hands for years. If he agrees with you why doesn't just give up the draft pick owed to NJ right now as opposed to a chance at receiving a lottery pick this summer. He doesn't do it because he knows a lottery pick is more valuable than the flexibility you claim to be so valuable. How can you not see that. So I do not see your point of coming here and trying to make this simple poll yours and throwing in this flexibility argument. I find almost ridiculous. Did you really expect anything different. Are where you just trying to to show everyone you're the smartest guy in the room. Either way your flexibility argument doesn't seem smart for someone who usually seems more intelligent than that.
I don't see why everyone thinks the Rockets will be out in the 1st round anyway. We would likely play OKC and i think we have got their number.
Given the bolded parts above, OMR . . . fair enough. Enjoy your poll. I will point out that you are incorrect about not being able to trade future picks for another year. If the Rockets make the playoffs this year, they will be able to trade their unprotected 2013 first round pick (or any other future draft pick, for that matter) ON DRAFT NIGHT. That restriction you fear wears off the moment that New Jersey makes their selection using the Rockets' pick. In fact, many draft-day trades don't actually occur until after the draft is over for this exact reason. Yes, you are right that three 2012 picks are good trade assets, but (a) you would only be able to trade 2 of the 3 picks (unless you are getting an unprotected 2012 or 2013 first round pick in return) until after the draft (the same moment you could be trading unprotected future picks); and (b) if no one bites on a trade DURING the draft, and if a trade is the Rockets' objective, then the Rockets are screwed and stuck with too many rookies and no future picks to trade other than the previously mentioned Undesirable Future Pick. Still, since I see that you are very upset by my "poking around in YOUR poll", I will leave you alone. Enjoy your thread. Just please try to be more open-minded about other people's opinions in general on this BBS. "Stupid", "kooky" and "ridiculous" are not exactly respectful ways to describe others' viewpoints, especially when they are perfectly logical and reasonable.
I am not upset. Just a little annoyed that you brought up the flexibility issue in a simple dumb poll after you had a greed to disagree. Agreed "stupid" is uncalled for, my apologies. But Kooky was the best other word I could come up with. And you did say you were a big boy and could take it. Anyway I do appreciate your mature response. As opposed to my old senile man response. Peace
I absolutely agree with you. I think that is a real possibility if Martin and Lowry can come back and contribute off the bench. Which is why I am on the fence. I see that advantage to winning now to building team confidence going forward. I know once playoff comes all be all in and love it if we are competitive. But richt now I see a loaded draft coming up and I salivate at the possibility.
No problem, man. Seriously, sorry to rain on your parade with my "flexibility" issue. I honestly don't see it as "pushing my agenda" but can understand if you see it that way. Didn't mean to annoy. It was intended to inform the uninformed. If they think it's as "kooky" as you do, they're free to disagree with me.
I didnt want the Lakers to win. I root for the Rockets to win every night. But I'm tired of the mediocrity treadmill. One playoff series victory in 15 seasons...yeah, I'm ready for that to be over. And I think that's far more likely to happen if we have 3 draft picks in the same draft than if we make the playoffs this season as the 8th seed with this group of players. Of course there are no guarantees....there are no guarantees with any plan, clearly, or we would have already cashed in these magic #assets for a 1st Team All-NBA player. But I think the risk of continuing on this hope and pray strategy of acquiring a real difference maker with bit parts is ridiculous...there's a reason why Morey says it's unprecedented. And all it's doing right now is driving away interest from a once proud franchise and delaying the inevitable.
a franchise that can't sell out a game to save its life probably shouldn't put off getting a first round pick until 2018. a GM who has already been GM for 5 years with a franchise that can't sell out a game and can't get a game on national television probably shouldn't be stocking up on draft picks that are 5 years out.
