Isn't it funny that he agrees with a post that blames both sides for bringing up race to much then decides to point the finger at one side.
Has anybody seen any pictures of Zimmerman aside from his mugshot (from the time the charges against him were dropped)? We've seen plenty of pictures from Trayvon from his youth (some more than 6 years old!), but all the media has shown us has been a mugshot of Zimmerman. Another example of the media's bias, which impacts the beliefs of the readers
Yes. Has anybody seen other pictures of Zimmerman. This could be one way the media is manipulating public opinion.
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nake...kely-be-arrested-doesnt-deserve-immunity.html Stand Your Ground fathers: Trayvon Martin's killer should likely be arrested, doesn't deserve immunity The fathers of Florida’s controversial Stand Your Ground law implicated in the death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin say the man who shot him to death probably should be arrested and doesn’t deserve a self-defense claim of immunity. Former state Sen. Durell Peaden and current state Rep. Dennis Baxley say the law they passed in 2005 was designed to protect citizens by giving them the right to “meet force with force.” Both men say they don’t know all the facts of Trayvon's case. But, they say they believe the law would not allow a person like George Zimmerman to pursue and confront a person like Trayvon and then use deadly force. Zimmerman has not been charged. “They got the goods on him. They need to prosecute whoever shot the kid,” said Peaden, a Crestview Republican who sponsored the deadly force law in 2005. “He has no protection under my law.” Peaden and Baxley say their law, at its heart, is a self-defense law. It says law-abiding people have no duty to retreat. Nowhere does it say that a person has a right to confront another. The law does say a law-abiding citizen can use deadly force if "if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony." The 911 tapes strongly suggest Zimmerman overstepped his bounds, they say, when the Sanford neighborhood crime-watch captain said he was following Trayvon and appeared to ignore a police request to stay away. “The guy lost his defense right then,” said Peaden. “When he said ‘I’m following him,’ he lost his defense.” Under the law, a person who claims he was acting in self defense can be immune from arrest. But, like Peaden, Baxley said Zimmerman might have lost that right because he could have “aggravated” the situation and provoked a confrontation. Said Baxley: “There’s nothing in this statute that authorizes you to pursue and confront people, particularly if law enforcement has told you to stay put. I don’t see why this statute is being challenged in this case. That is to prevent you from being attacked by other people.” Baxley, R-Ocala, was a little more circumspect than Peaden in calling for Zimmerman’s arrest. “I don’t want to make that judgment call based on speculation,” Baxley said. I just want to reinforce that there’s nothing in this statute that authorizes people to pursue and confront people.” Still, there’s a chance Zimmerman could avoid an arrest or a conviction if he were charged because the law gives broad protections to those who claim they had reason to be afraid and to use deadly force. There’s a chance, for instance, that Zimmerman decided to stop following Trayvon after he was told by a police dispatcher “Okay, we don't need you to do that.” After that, Trayvon could have changed course and confronted Zimmerman. It’s unclear. Only Zimmerman appears to know. Still, the 911 tapes suggest Zimmerman may have gotten out of his car just after he admitted he was following Trayvon. Baxley suggested that doesn’t bode well for Zimmerman’s defense. “If he provoked it by pursing him, I think he’s on thin ice,” Baxley said. The comments from the two lawmakers add more weight to the criticisms of Sanford's police department and the area's prosecutor. It's also a preview of the arguments that will rage in the state Legislature, where some lawmakers are calling for hearings into and a repeal of the Stand Your Ground law. Both Baxley and Peaden said the law didn’t need to be clarified and said some are using Trayvon's death to attack gun rights. Peaden said he sponsored the law in 2005 after an old man from Pensacola shot an intruder at a trailer where he lived after his home was damaged by a hurricane. The old man was never charged, and critics said that proved Peaden’s legislation wasn’t needed. Peaden said he sponsored the legislation to ensure that those who defend their property know they won’t have to hire a lawyer to defend themselves in court for defending themselves. But the law went farther than a mere property-protection act. The core of the legislation adjusted what’s known as “the Castle Doctrine” — the concept that a man’s home is his castle and that he owes no duty to retreat when someone breaks in. The Legislature declared that people had no duty to retreat almost anywhere. Baxley said the law isn’t the problem. It’s the “application” of the law that’s at issue. If anything needs to be changed in law, Baxley said, it’s making sure that crime-watch captains aren’t acting like armed vigilantes. “If you want to pass something, pass something that limits their ability to pursue and confront people,” Baxley said. “It’s about crime watch. What are the limitations of crime watch? Are you allowed to jump out and follow people and confront them? What do you think is going to happen? That’s where it starts. “I don’t think it’s about that statute. I think it’s about the crime-watch role and limiting people’s role in feeling like they have the authority to pursue and confront people. That is aggravating an incident right there.” Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nake...ed-doesnt-deserve-immunity.html#storylink=cpy
how do you show the list of most active posters in this thread? i would bet tradertexxx has at least 3 times as many posts as the 2nd most active poster here. for someone who says he needs more "facts" he sure has alot to say here in this thread.
He's a cowardly bigot that express his true feelings on message boards. This child was killed on Feb 26th and his body laid in the morgue for 3days? The police dept. had that child's cell phone and NEVER called his parents or anyone on that phone until 3 days later? They never called the last person he spoke with; the never attempted to call ANYONE. How is that possible? Let me tell you what they did do............They drug tested Trayvon's lifeless body for drugs. Let me say it again.....They DRUG tested Trayvon’s lifeless body for drugs, but it wasn't warranted to drug test the man who SHOT DEAD an unarmed kid! Really? Three days?? No family or friends of the child was contacted? The father and mother franticly searching hospitals looking for their baby....this can't be right can it? I can't believe this to be true in 2012
I'm actually not defending him. He may very well not be justified in his claim of self defense. But he might. I'm simply exposing the potential bias that exists in the media on this topic, and raising questions that may be valid.
Claims to be neutrally trying to balance both sides of an argument, mocks people on one side of the argument. You make it too easy to expose you, work on your troll skills bro.
