Breakdown of Daryl Morey Trades & Drafts

For the most part those first few years he was trying to build a team around Tmac and Yao, thus I give him big credit. To try to turn it around this fast with an owner who doesn't want to tank...its a tough job.

I truly hope he succeeds in making the Rockets a championship contender. However with that being said...if time lingers on like this something has to be done..I'm not saying Morey should be fired, but Les needs to change his strategy.

I think eventually, if we don't resign some players, and no good free agents sign here..we will be bad enough to get a top draft pick and have enough cap space to do something.

 

Morey is one of the best GMs in the business and needless to say it is not his fault that superstars decide where they want to go.

That said, Morey would be a much better fit in an OKC/Miami/Clippers situation where the title is just around the corner. He can get great deals on very solid role players who don't have as much say as a superstar. Superstars, he or no other GM has any control over.

The ONLY reason I'd like to get rid of Morey (and I'm a HUGE Morey fan, if you search my records I don't think I ever doubt his moves), is simply because I want someone who will make us TERRIBLE (this in the Bobcats sense, not old NYK sense, so you still have a huge amount of cap space, but you are collecting great draft picks).

I think if Les lets Morey tank for 1 year, and we land a top 5 pick, Morey will be able to work some magic to turn that pick into a player we could possibly build around, or move it and get a team to way overpay for it.

Morey needs to be given a chance without having his hands tied to the mediocre treadmill because Les won't let us tank, and superstars don't want to come here.

 

People who say Morey hasnt gotten a AllSTAR, I say to them, since he took the job which teams have traded for a allstar?and what did they give up in return?

Paul=Gordan was better than any asset on this roster.
DWill= NJ gave up Favors and Kanter(pick). better than anything we have
Melo= how is that working out?
Bogut= Ellis is better than what we have.

So forgive Morey for not being able to screw over other GM's. our assets are overvalued by us and I think Morey know what he has to work with.

 

you have to include the nixed Gasol deal and the Amare deal.....
there were other circumstances involved such as Stern's basketball reasons and Amar'e failing the physical.

 

Exactly... Imagine a team of Amare,Gasol,Batum,Lee,Lowry...cool team

 

Quite a bit of info.........but all the info was relevant and needed. I am glad you decided to break it down in this fashion and show the likes of Dakota how great of a GM morey is.

 

Morey has some horrible luck.

- Finishing 2nd place in the Deron Williams chase. Had New Jersey traded for Carmelo, good chance Deron is a Rocket right now.
- The most credible NBA reporter Woj reported that Houston topped New York on Carmelo Anthony's wish list way back in the offseason. And then Yao couldn't stay healthy and that likely ruined our chances.
- Chris Bosh being wooed by Lebron James and Dwayne Wade to join Miami. I think Chicago would have signed him personally if not for that but Houston would have been a much stronger player in the running.
- Dwight Howard being a nut. Feigan described trade talks as "intense" between Magic - Rockets although Nets clearly had the lead by a mile.
- Throw in the Amar'e failing the physical bit and the vetoed deal as well.

Seems like Morey is always in the hunt but he's always topped by one team or another. He has a horde of trade assets but lacks that marquee trade piece that will make a blockbuster deal happen.

 

1. I thought SAC was about to get Deron if not for NJ...
2. Agreed. Yao's health was why he never cut ties with him. Plus the fact that the value = nil with his injury history. Stick with him and HOPE.
3. Yes and no. Yeah CHI gets him, but we probably had no shot.
4. Yeah. That deal may have happened.
5. 100% on the money. STAT to Houston was done, but PHX wanted to waive the physical. Morey wasn't buying.

Dude's luck will change. If anything, it's the law of averages.

Sidenote: Pugs, I had to laugh at "Basically Carl Landry and Luis Scola for Bobby Jackson and 3 2nd round picks". How the **** does anyone pull that **** off? Epic.

 

I would say LUCK is important. If only one of our 14th picks or Donuts, Llull would enter the Borderline allstar stratosphere... everything looks different
Keep 'em or trade them .....both are wins

Eyes are on Patterson, Morris, Donatas, possibly Llull later.

 

Morey has been an epic success in terms of trades. He has pulled off some of the most brilliant trades in the history of the NBA. Yes.....the history of the NBA.

 

Never heard of Sergei Lishchuk TBH

 

In hindsight.... Terrence W. trade was a bad idea.... but we gambled and at that time.... it was a solid grade B trade.

Now maybe it is C-.

 

I think we underestimate how truly shrewd Morey really is. The time when we did have a superstar/s, he was able to surround Yao with bulldogs that resulted in an unbelievable winning steak, went to the second round for the first time in ages, and scared the crap of a Lakers team with an injured Yao and Mutombo (I believe that if we had either centers healthy we had a chance to go to the Finals that year).

The exciting thing is, if we can get 1 franchise changing star, imagine the roster he could build around and the pieces he could acquire given his history of unique moves. If Morey were let go however, like some of the posters would like to happen for the sake of a losing season, he wouldn't have any problem landing in another organization who is desperate for a franchise-changing GM.

Like the poster who mentioned that he would thrive in Miami, Chicago, or OKC... we'll he's right. Morey would have no problems fortifying LeBron, Wade and Bosh, or DRose, or Durant and Wesbrook with players that strengthens an already robust team. It would be unfair for the rest of the league. If he inherited the Magic team, Dwight would already have the star/s he needs and the Indecision would not even be a topic.

Lastly, who are the alternatives who could have done a better job than Morey given the circumstance, injuries and the owner's edict. Otis Smith? Billy King? yeah right. Petrie? Presti? Grunwald? What about our beloved Carroll Dawson? Would any have the done a superior job of maintaining competitive balance and financial flexibility. I think its an emphatic no. Either the Rox would have sucked big time, theres a stranglehold of immovable contracts, or stayed at mediocrity consisting of players with less potential.

Its a hard road to fight for a playoff spot and be desperate for a star at the same time. But if the owner expresses to be competitive, unless Morey is paying the salaries, then he has to act in accordance with Les' directives. And given the situation, I think Morey has done an outstanding good job.

 

I think we underestimate how truly shrewd Morey really is. The time when we did have a superstar/s, he was able to surround Yao with bulldogs that resulted in an unbelievable winning steak, went to the second round for the first time in ages, and scared the crap of a Lakers team with an injured Yao and Mutombo (I believe that if we had either centers healthy we had a chance to go to the Finals that year).

The exciting thing is, if we can get 1 franchise changing star, imagine the roster he could build around and the pieces he could acquire given his history of unique moves. If Morey were let go however, like some of the posters would like to happen for the sake of a losing season, he wouldn't have any problem landing in another organization who is desperate for a franchise-changing GM.

Like the poster who mentioned that he would thrive in Miami, Chicago, or OKC... we'll he's right. Morey would have no problems fortifying LeBron, Wade and Bosh, or DRose, or Durant and Wesbrook with players that strengthens an already robust team. It would be unfair for the rest of the league. If he inherited the Magic team, Dwight would already have the star/s he needs and the Indecision would not even be a topic.

Lastly, who are the alternatives who could have done a better job than Morey given the circumstance, injuries and the owner's edict. Otis Smith? Billy King? yeah right. Petrie? Presti? Grunwald? What about our beloved Carroll Dawson? Would any have the done a superior job of maintaining competitive balance and financial flexibility. I think its an emphatic no. Either the Rox would have sucked big time, theres a stranglehold of immovable contracts, or stayed at mediocrity consisting of players with less potential.

Its a hard road to fight for a playoff spot and be desperate for a star at the same time. But if the owner expresses to be competitive, unless Morey is paying the salaries, then he has to act in accordance with Les' directives. And given the situation, I think Morey has done an outstanding job.

 

Patience, my friends, patience.

 

How did you base your grades? The team has not gotten any better, and yet he receives A's and B's? A "C" team's GM should be getting "C" grades.

 

I swear, man...

 

Hey now, don't invoke fake probability theory in a thread about Morey!

I'm not necessarily a part of the "In Morey We Trust" club, but looking at his record, it's hard to not be impressed with the guy. I always picture Morey being like that kid who started with a cell phone and eventually bartered it into a Porsche on Craigslist.

Though, I do wonder if there is a ceiling for this type of shrewd deal making, as many here have also expressed. We've seen Morey flip nothing for something numerous times, but I'm still not sure he'll be able to bring home a "Porsche" -- that's no indictment on his competence, but maybe, just a consequence of the nature of player movement. Assets do have free will after all, so that certainly confounds things.

Anyway, I personally can't stomach tanking, so I definitely hope Morey's method works out...

 

Amare not coming to houston had 0 to do with a physical and more to do with compensastion. The rox would've had to give up brook and pick and take back barbosa.