Rockets acquire Marcus Camby for Thabeet, Flynn, 2nd round pick

Fail lineup. IF the Gasol deal had gone through it would be:

Lowry/ Lin
Lee/ Bud
Parsons/ Morris
Gasol/ Chuck/ Patterson
Nene/ Camby

 

im not the biggest fan of the trade. but there is something that needs to be said.

http://bkref.com/tiny/Sx9G2

who's number 1? who's number 3?
and for the hell of it, look at number 12 too.

 

If Camby can stay healthy this will end up being a great move and could make the rockets one of the more dangerous teams come playoff time.

 

I want Bear and Camby fo FIGHT! (on the court agaisnt other teams of couse) for that starting position. :grin:

 

What a load of crap. These guys can't get to Portland in 2 days? Now Camby can't play today and we need a Center today.

 

I like the addition of Camby. Still doesn't make us a threat in the West but at least we won't get embarrassed on the inside anymore, or at least I hope it doesn't.

 

Yeah, their lack of professionalism cost us the game today against the Clips.....If Camby plays, we don't get pounded on the boards....and our interior defense would have taken care of the rest.

 

So the Rockets got rid of Jeremy Lin so they could keep Jonny Flynn instead, then got rid of Flynn along with Thabeet and a 2nd round pick to get Camby. Roughly speaking, that means Flynn was about 33% to 40% the value of Camby in Morey's eyes.

But wait. Wouldn't you think that Lin is worth at least equal to Camby, or 1.5 times Camby's value? That means Morey getting rid of Lin only returned 1/3rd to 25% of his value, maybe even less. That's abysmal (just like acquiring Flynn and Thabeet in the first place) and shows Morey is terrible at maximizing the value of his "assets,'" "pieces," and "chips." Also look at Morey giving up a first round pick for Terrence Williams, who they just waived. Jeez.

 

Yeah, let's throw Jeremy Lin's name out there. That's totally relevant

 

when are people going to realize that we had no choice but to keep Flynn because he was on a GUARANTEED contract versus Lin's non guaranteed. If we let Flynn go, then not only do we lose a player but we still have to pay them and it counts towards the cap.

And as far as Twill and the 09 draft class is concerned, those were gambles that did not turn out well. It happens and the greatest part about it is that those contracts are now off our books and we actually have money and cap space to throw at free agents. You can't hit on every single player in the draft.

 

Yes, it is. If you are going to evaluate a GM, you have to track how he "flips" his assets over time. Without that, the fans are just bumpkins who evaluate deals in isolation. Just as relevant in this deal is trading Shane Battier for Thabeet (to a Grizzlies team we were chasing for a playoff spot), which gets us a piece of Camby.

 

Flynn's guaranteed contract also goes into evaluating Morey's talent decision-making skills: trading for a player with guaranteed coming off an injury who had never practiced a second in their own gym. And I don't care if a player has guaranteed money -- if you have a player as talented as Lin in your own gym, you suck it up, pay the guaranteed money, package Flynn in a deal, or use the one-time amnesty clause if you have to. The Rockets and other teams have gotten rid of other players with guaranteed money before. It shouldn't be a deal stopper.

 

Morey traded Brad Miller for Flynn and D-Mo... Flynn turned into Camby.

Lin plays no part in it at all.

 

Flynn AND Thabeet AND a second rounder turned into Camby, not just Flynn. Gotta get all the facts straight.

How D-Mo turns out will be a huge determinant on how Morey is evaluated long-term on the value that Flynn was as a trade asset. So far it's not looking good, with Flynn making them cut Lin, although "making" them is a questionable term here. If D-Mo turns into a bust next year, then that should be the final nail in the coffin for Morey, if another nail hasn't been nailed by that time.

 

D-Mo could never play a minute for the Rockets and I would still think it was a great trade. Why? Because I would much rather have Marcus Camby than Brad Miller.

And its so easy when you have hindsight to look at. Lin would have gotten no playing time on this team, just like Flynn.

 

Here is how it works. Camby is a Houstonian. He wants to play here. Guys who wnat to play here get rewarded. JJ Watt wanted to play here as he said when he was drafted. Johnathan Joseph chooses the Texans. Rewarded with nice years and playoff runs. Lowry wants to play here. Rewarded with contract, fan love, and his best career years ever. Thats how it works. Fisher not likey? Go and play elsewhere. Carmelo no likey? Go and play on the hapless Knicks team. Thats how it works.

 

Hasheem the Dream got his #34 back.

 

I still don't see the reasoning behind this move. We aren't contenders and he has no real value to anyone but a contender. I know we didn't give up anything but a 2nd round pick but still puzzled as to how this makes us better. Yep might add another game to our W column but really,how will moves like this turn us from a treading water team into a contender? I don't expect it to happen overnight or in 1 move, but the logic on this move escapes me.

 

The logic in bringing in a mobile defensive center for next to nothing escapes you?

 

Oh I know that our paint D sucked and I know that we didn't give up anything but a 2nd round pick, but really what's our goal? Win a game or 2 more for this season and maybe next? Though I really dont think he'll bring that much to the table next year at 38.

The big picture is escaping you for the lure of a new/old toy. But go ahead...keep buying tickets...that will help support Les' goal.