The face of Islamic Rage Boy certainly screams "PEACE", very much in contrast to the second picture posted by me. "A great thing to be done." --FranchiseBlade
Like I said the first pic, is something you see as wrong. That's part of the problem. That was the whole point I was trying to make. Now equating the two pictures only shows even more clearly where your mindset is. You've made your thinking and prejudice crystal clear.
If you think the pictures of Islamic Rage Boy show "nothing wrong" and show "something great to be done" that shows very clearly where your mindset is. Spoiler
keep spelling it out. To the normal person, angry protest is simply free speech. Which I do believe is a great thing. To you it's bad, especially if the person is a middle-eastern, bearded, Muslim man. That was the point. The more you think it's crazy, the more you show where your thinking and prejudice lie. The second picture you showed had violent signs that advocated wiping out people. I don't believe that's OK. For you to put my quote with that picture was low. But the fact that you see the first picture as being on the same level as the second shows where your thinking is.
It would not be the first or last time. Totally agree. I'm highly critical of Islam and Muslims without needing to make the type of associations that ATW makes.
Islamic Rage Boy was a militant, if you don't know that. And you cannot completely disassociate the message of a protest from the fact that it is free speech when judging whether it is a "great thing", as you claim. According to your logic, an angry KKK march, demanding that all blacks are murdered, would be "a great thing to do".
Wrong. As I pointed out, the second picture you misleadingly put with my quote advocated violence, which I'm against. So the KKK demanding the murder of blacks is violent, and I'm against it. But if the KKK wants to march, they can. It's free speech. Even though I'm against the Klan, I applaud free speech. As for the first picture, it was an angry man. Anger isn't violence. That's true when it's European anger, or middle-eastern anger.
How do you know that the angry man didn't advocate violence? His body language most certainly indicates he did. Your bias is crystal-clear. <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Weg7Tyg5fPU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> "Death to America! Death to Israel!" Once again, you have been pwned to the max.
I stand by my statement people from the middle east are in general more volatile and sensitive about a lot of things. Not saying it's a bad thing, maybe they are just proud people that are easily angered. I don't agree with ATW's Islam phobia though because I said Arabic people and I don't believe it has to do with their religion.
If you say it has nothing to do with religion, what is left? You could say it is "cultural", but how do you separate "culture" from "religion" in countries where religion dominates everyday life? If you say it is neither culture nor religion, what is left? Race? Do you think that would be a more defensible point of view than alleged "Islam phobia"? Or are you just trying to endear yourself to what appears to be the majority of posters here? But yes, my personal experience, which is anecdotal evidence only, confirms your experience. Shorter fuse, for sure.
showing different videos and pictures than the initial one doesn't make you right. His body language advocated violence? That's hilarious. You posted a picture. There was nothing in that picture to indicate he was violent, a militant or anything else bad, except in a mind that is predisposed to think those kinds of things of angry middle eastern bearded men. Trying to show different pictures and videos than the first picture doesn't really apply. Again it doesn't speak well for you that you are lumping them all together.
Nope, that's just difference of opinion from you and I. I think their short fuse, sensitivity and resort to extreme violence has more to do with how backward their society they live in rather than Islam itself. It's like they are still stuck in the middle ages. People's actions towards religion goes hand in hand with what society sees fit. In my opinion their behaviors will change as they continue to move forward into a more modern society where people are just more tolerant and less likely to resort to violence. But then again I think it also might has a lot to do with the fact that Arabs are proud people? They don't like to be wrong or embarrassed about certain things they are devoted to.
Clutching at straws, desperately trying to save face, I see. For you to even pretend that you don't know that "Death to America! Death to Israel! Death to infidels!" is a standard chant at these angry demonstrations is ridiculous. Then I even provide a video of the actual person to prove it, and you still blabber on about this guy just exercising his right to free speech, and that being a great thing to do. You are embarrassing yourself. Once again, I might add.
I don't disagree with anything you posted except that you didn't really address the point that it seems arbitrary to artificially exempt Islam from being part of the cause for the behavior when it is Islam (or whatever variant of it) that dominates everyday life in their societies. So you say the society is backward, but you say the religion has nothing to do with it, when a lot of the rules in the society which appear backward to us are derived directly or indirectly from the religion. Just seems like a contradiction to me, but oh well.
I don't have any opportunity to lose face in this situation. I haven't done anything to show that I lump all middle-eastern men together, and generally feel that they are all violent. I'm not the person who took my quote from one photo and then added it to a different photo in an attempt to slander me. That was all you. There's only one person who's lost face here, or even has a chance of losing face here. I've done nothing where I could lose face. I know that there are demonstrations where that chant goes on, and I haven't pretended otherwise. Not once. Though just because a middle-eastern Muslim man is angry at a protest doesn't mean he's chanting that. Are you trying to tell me that the guy in the original photo is the exact same person in the video shouting death to America, death to Israel? They are the same person?
Yes, they are the exact same person (Shakeel Bhat). I just now realize that you did not understand that.
He was indeed a militant, but claims that he didn't kill people. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Rage_Boy http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/islamic-rage-boy I guess if you have never heard of Islamic Rage Boy, you fail to see the humor in posting his pic...which explains a lot.
