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Trayvon Martin

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Member

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    You haven't even read the online articles about this? Sigh. Hard to argue with people who aren't willing to do even the most basic reading on the case.

    http://lezgetreal.com/2012/03/possible-witnesses-emerge-in-the-trayvon-martin-death/
     
  2. bigtexxx

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    You're still not providing any sources, you just claim you have them but you don't. It's simple as that. NONE of the articles so far have said that the police have evidence to SUPPORT Zimmerman.

    Seriously man at least try to sound legit.
     
  4. ashiin

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    Jumped the gun there, since I pulled a bigtexxx and ignored the second part of your quote.
     
  5. sjackson0

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    Bigtexx

    Why don't you give it a rest...you're a waste. You've never shown any remorse for the family or the kid that lost his life. Not one post....all you want to do is bicker and debate because internet forums are all you have. This is it for...arguing and trying to push your warp opinions off to see if you can WIN an internet fight. It's pathetic, but of course you'll just justify your actions and tell someone about wanting facts and to think critically. You don’t care about facts!! You just want to irritate the masses and WIN an internet debate. Show some class; a child was killed.
     
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  6. gwayneco

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    Factually incorrect. He was warned by a police dispatcher, not a LEO. He had as much right to be in a public space as Martin.
     
  7. bigtexxx

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    umm, yes I did. Please read. pwn3d again.

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=6700775&postcount=341
     
  8. bigtexxx

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    Actually I believe it's you that doesn't care about the facts. You have accepted biased reporting and incomplete facts and formed an immovable opinion/judgment on this case. You're emotionally invested in it. I would like to teach you a lesson here -- to really THINK about things. Gather all the facts. Judge without bias. Then make a decision.

    (and maybe ease up on the insults to others-- it's a clear sign that you've been dominated)

    and yes, it's tragic that Martin died. I'm certainly not happy that somebody lost their life.
     
  9. sjackson0

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    This was all you needed to type...All that other sh!it was worthless to my eye sockets
     
  10. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    It is tragic that the black lost his life. That only took 18 pages, nice.
     
  11. sjackson0

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    right! Took him 18pages for him to say that, but not before he tells me that I'm bias and how I bought in to the liberal media; think critically and booty nutt butt pills! No class...

    Show remorse if you're really not a bigot Texx

    FACT... A child is dead
     
  12. Al Calavicci

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    There are certain posters here who recognize the fact that most of us find this story tragic and are obviously leveraging those emotions to incite a reaction, like most trolls do.
     
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    He has a right to be in the public space but not a right to start an altercation. Whether it was a dispatcher or LEO (also do you know for fact it wasn't an officer working as dispatcher but that doesn't matter since the dispatcher is speaking on behalf of the police) he was still advised not to confront Martin. That establishes that it was Zimmerman and not Martin who precipitated the confrontation. While we don't know the exact nature of the confrontation Zimmerman started it.
     
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    You're probably right but I am involved in this thread because I actually have a professional interest regarding self-defense situations and law.
     
  16. bigtexxx

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    You don't know that Zimmerman started the altercation. Zimmerman could have asked to speak to Martin, and Martin could have escalated things. Zimmerman, as neighborhood watch captain (or as a citizen) has a right to talk to another person.

    Again, this is another example of a major logic leap from you. You're contriving things in your mind that may or may not be true. You just don't know.
     
  17. GladiatoRowdy

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    He was specifically told not to do so by a police dispatcher. He went against the advice of law enforcement simply by getting out of his car and approaching the youth.
     
  18. gwayneco

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    The police chief said the dispatcher's words did not legally prevent Zimmerman from following Martin.

    No, we don't know that Zimmerman "started" it. Even if he did, it depends on the nature of the "confrontation." Did he merely say something rude to Martin and then Martin assaulted him? We simply do not know. We may never know.
     
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    Now you're just blindly defending the guy. We all want the facts. But there was a chain of command here that was ignored. The watch group works with police. The watch group is supposed to call the police dispatcher and receive further instruction.

    Did Zimmerman have the right to be on the sidewalk with Martin? Sure.

    Does that erase all the facts that he could have instigated a scuffle and prematurely shot Martin? No.

    The SPD are using the vagueness of the Stand Your Ground statute to keep Zimmerman out of prison. A dead body and his word doesn't seem like probable cause to keep him out of jail to most people. But hey, we aren't police or Florida attorneys here so for anybody to believe that they know all the facts or how to break down the facts 100% correct is fooling themselves.

    Some posters here also like to believe we live in a utopia where racism and double standards don't exist. This is a perfect example of someone being black, wearing a hoodie (it was raining), being deemed suspicious and eventually being shot because of what he looked like. Zimmerman is actually hispanic btw.*

    Having a CHL doesn't give you permission to pick/instigate fights in a cleared out public place, start losing the fight and then shoot your opponent in "self defense" because you're afraid of getting hurt more.

    *: For the poster here who keeps having to defend his views and character.
     
  20. bigtexxx

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    That means nothing. You have not pushed the ball forward with this post.

    Zimmerman had a right to pursue Martin.
     

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