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Indonesia Zoo malnourishing animals and keeping them in cages where they can barely m

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  1. SPF35

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    In indonesia, there is an underfunded zoo that just isn't suitable. So basically the rare white tiger walks around in a jail like cage while losing his ability to walk and with plenty of skin lesions. A giraffe just died with over 20 pounds of plastic in hist stomach. Pelicans are bunched into cages where they can't spread their wings. Bears are begging tourist for nuts or anyhting they can eat. Employees have sold animals and /or their food into the market.

    IT is so disturbing, some here don't care about animals as well, but when you are in power(as humans are being smarter and the powerful species) it comes with freedom to dow hat you want which is also important to have a responsibility about this stuff. This was just disgusting to see why we keep them around and torture them for our entertainment. I've thought this way of eve nAmerican zoos, but at least they make an effort to make it comfortable. The whole concept of taking something living with a mind, family, home and take it away in a cage for viewing pleasure is disturbing

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/indonesia-nightmare-zoo-packed-sickly-animals-article-1.1037940
     
  2. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Read the headlines on the upper left of that website. Those copywriters hit them all out of the ballpark.
     
  3. R0ckets03

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    man....that is horrible :(:(
     
  4. AMS

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    I never understood Zoo's.
     
  5. R0ckets03

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    or circuses. why do people have to see caged animals for entertainment?
     
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    agree, especially now that the internet exists, i'd rather watch video of a lion or tiger hunting in the wild from my own home than some glorified housecats sleeping in some tiny "habitat"
     
  8. Nook

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    First world zoo's serve a very important function and keep some species viable that otherwise would not exist. The problem is 3rd world hellhole zoo's.
     
  9. SPF35

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    Yea exactly, if we want people to learn about these animals, watch the discovery channell and National geographic about their own environments and youll learn that they care for their families and have social systems even.
    I used to enjoy seeing them in the zoos, but they literally are jailed just for the sake of us to see them. Dolphins, whales have shown depression in our water parks. We have the power over them and we use our privilege so irresponsibly and abusively that it is disgusting. Or evne go on a safari at least they are in their own places there.

    But I hope you guys saw the video at the bottom of the link so you can kind of see them in your eyes and see them broken down. A Tiger that is such a powerful creature just absolutely lost and defeated with skin lesions all over and just stuck in a trade and the spirit completely done. This is all for our viewing pleasure. Imagine if someoen did that to our pets or dogs that we consider apart of the family.
     
  10. Nook

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    As someone whom has hunted large cats in Asia and Africa, I can tell you the Internet is a poor substitute for having a lion 5 feet from you.
     
  11. AMS

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    If you want a Lion 5 feet from you, go to Africa.
     
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    I read the title like they duct taped your mouth before you could finish.
     
  13. SPF35

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    Honestly, what was the point and satisfcation of killing them? Why not just go on a safari, or if you wanted something more intimate, go of on your own or with a guide and just go see them in their habitat. Bring a gun in case they attack(After all you are intruding) otherwise watch and admire. What really is the point of murdering them ?
     
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    **** this kind of zoo.
     
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    Don't mean to pick on you Nook, but I am just curious of what others think of the issue, especially since hunting is prevalent over here. I understand if its for food really or even as the natives using the skin and just ahving it apart of the eco system, I think its fine if you are in defense.
    But really, animals aren't humans, but they are still are living, thinking beings. What does that say about us if we go to their homes from our far away lands for 'vacation', find them, slaugther, shoot, and kill them not for necessity, but just for fun and sport. Its not quite like the murders for politicians etc of people of course, but its still heinous and outdated. What kind of insecurity would lead for people to be satisfied or feel manlier when they kill a creature much less powerful with them because they use a weapon that can kill anything. If its about being manly and proving theh unt, do it with oyur hands and see how well you fare. It really doesn't make much sense to me.
     
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    Given those choices, 99% of the public would choose the Internet. lol.
     
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    If it wasn't for those zoos, those animals would be dead.
     
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    I think animals would rather die then be kept in those conditions
     
  19. SPF35

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    agreed, let em go home and stay in their ecosystems. would you rather be surviving now in a cage where you can only take a step to the left right, not be fed prooperly develop bacteria all over your skin, be the only one of your kind usually and just have other creatures come and stare at you for kicks. Is that really what you call 'alive'?
     
  20. Nook

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    It is okay if you want to pick on me, as my position on this issue has changed drastically. Hunting is not just for food, there is something borderline spiritual about the hunt and kill. In the case of the lion it was in Africa, I had to purchase the right to hunt and kill the lion. All total I spent over $80,000 and virtually all of it is going towards protecting the natural habitat of lions. There are areas where lions and their habitats are protected just because hunters Pau a premium.
    Sometimes things are not as they seem, and this is such a case. Big game hunters are actually protecting the natural environment of Africa, the lion and putting clothes and food to poor Africans. I have hunted and killed literally hundreds of large animals, typically with a bow, in every case the meat is eaten and pelts used, and I never poach. I would not hunt lion if not for the license system. That is why I do not hunt endangered animals.
     

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