CBS Sports: Rockets the most serious "rental" team pursuing Howard

I think so too but I'm still kinda surprised he said that. If anything Lee should be a better keep than Martin for the future.

 

Meh, I'd pass on a year of people debating whether or not we are the worst team in professional sports history all to get Tristan Thompson. They lucked out with the Mo Williams trade, and that is why their future is "bright".

 

Deleted. Don't wanna continue to derail the thread. My apologies.

 

That was a question asked by the "sports leader" who are a year behind the trade proposal last year. The Bulls have Rip Hamilton now so they don't need Lee. What they do need is a PF.

 

You're ignoring the fact that they traded away a player, which made their immediate future worse, for a high pick.

It's about pushing your chips to one end of the table or the other. Either way, you're going to need some luck.

 

absolutely. there's no sure thing. i've said that 100 times in these threads where that issue has been discussed. there's no sure thing that the player you're waiting on while you continue to spin on the treadmill of mediocrity is ever going to walk through that door...and there's no sure thing in the draft.

 

Yeah, pointing out that the Cavs took Thompson #4 overall (a decidedly less than franchise changing pick) isn't evidence that we shouldn't be trying to make a move.

A top 5 pick has an exponentially better track record to be all-star caliber than say, picks 12-16 (where we usually pick).

Granted, Morey has done a very good job with what he was given (finding late steals in the draft, trading magic beans for solid players, etc).

But you're right, it's time to hop off the mediocrity treadmill.

We have to do something. Swing for the fences, Daryl. You have my sword.

 

Morey probably would SnT Howard, rather than just let him walk, mainly because of Alexander's no tanking policy. Cleveland got Irving after sucking for one year. And if Morey had that team, he could rebuild it in a hurry.

 

Are you suggesting a immediate flip - ala a 3 team trade? Or a sign and trade in the summer?

because as MadMax pointed out, even under the old CBA that didn't work out that great for Cleveland, or Toronto. Yes, they got something back, but nothing of real value.

If my understanding is correct, under the new CBA, there is effectively 0 incentive for a player to do a sign and trade. In other words, the palyer doesn't get paid more by being signed by their existing team and then immediately traded - in such a scenario, the player could only sign a contract as if they were signing with the new team outright. That being the case, Dwight would be incentivized to just walk outright, in order for the Nets to maintain their assets for later use.

The only reason to expect anything back in a sign and trade in the offseason would be if NJ had been unable to shed enough salary to actually fit Dwight onto their team... which is a possibility. At that point, I think the Rockets might have some decent leverage to get back value, as otherwise Dwight has to either sign with the Rockets or with some other team that actually does have MAX cap space... BUT, I find it unlikely the Nets wouldn't be able to find some way to shed salary through other offseason moves.

In other words, a sign and trade in the offseason that gets the Rockets assets back seems very very unlikely.

 

Well looks like Orlando has decided to trade Howard for sure. But where?

 

It is very interesting how the East Coast Sports media are all trying to downplay the Rockets in the whole deal. You'd think that the only teams that existed were Orlando, Miami, NY, NJ, and Chicago. Reminds me of FOX always running uphill against the left big 3.

 

Could not agree more and I just saw on twitter some really stupid trade about Howard to NYK for Carmelo AND Chandler. Lmao

 

And D'Antoni just resigned for the Knicks. wow

 

Actually if Dwight would commit and Dolan had any brains at all, that deal would be a no-brainer. But it almost necessitates Deron not being in the equation. So....Dwight isn't going to commit.

The bidding for Dwight is going to come down to the Nets and us.

 

I am thinking the same thing as well. I just hope Morey doesn't go all in on this and then at the last minute he goes to Nets and we get nothing because the dead line passed

 

As big a pusher for a Howard rental as I am, I've got to be fair and mention that part of the risk here is that Dwight will have almost no incentive to go down the S&T route this summer. He only enjoys a "true" max deal if he stays in town. S&Ts now can only match the max a non-Bird Rights team can offer. NJ has the cap space, so why would they bother? Same with Dallas.

 

I believe the only difference is that the max that NJ or Dallas can offer is less than the max that the team holding his bird rights can offer (years, dollars, and % increase YOY).

 

I dissagree, we don't have to just do something. Making a bad trade, just to be making a trade doesn't make sense. Young people are so impatient. Yao has been retired for an entire year and people are in panic mode.

 

Yes, Rip, obviously I want us to trade Lowry and Scola to the Lakers for a dried up cat turd. I'm down for anything, yo!

Don't be obtuse, man. We need to take a chance eventually. Not sell the farm for a penny.

"Risky" does not have to mean "stupid".

 

Howard is hell bound for Jersey supposedly because his corporate sponsors want the media market. appeasing them is worth more than the tens of millions he'll forgo on a NBA contract.

you've outlined an interesting sales pitch but you're selling the wrong product.