CBS Sports: Rockets the most serious "rental" team pursuing Howard

Lebron to miami. Carmelo to NY. Same story now DH wants NJ. Management can't do anything nowadays. This league is managed by superstars. They will go wherever they like.

 

Yep.

The Clippers will win games, and sell tickets, but I'll be shocked if they make even one finals appearance in the next 3-4 years.

They need some depth, and a legit 7 footer. Right now they're all sizzle, no steak.

 

Disregard Poopsworld.

 

dont get ur hopes up

 

It's called free agency. None of those guys forced a trade while under contract. They were all upcoming free agents.

 

Carmelo forced a trade. He was under contract.

 

Actually, Carmelo did.

 

Well it was either trade him for something, or let him walk for nothing. DEN did the smart move.

 

He didn't force them to trade him. He let them know where he planned to sign that offseason, and the team did what Orlando should have done (maximize his value to get something in return).

 

Is the dwight rentel really worth lowry? I mean the chances of him staying are little to none. I'd love a trade center'd around dalembert, martin, patterson and picks for dwight, but i don't think thats enough they'l want lowry.

 

Only one that didnt get what they want was CP3...and I think that is the new trend. Owners cant give in or the loose all flexibility. If you want a trade...I tell you where you are going. Magic if they are going to loose him...they do it for that reason. If nets wont give what they want...trade him to la or houston.

If he decided to walk on one of those teams and turn down the money...that is his choice...but it will be costly. Not to mention the nets seriously could loose D will to Dallas. Then Dallas couldnt sign Howard.

I think ultimately Nets offer Lopez, no 1 pick this year and Marshon Brooks... and that trumps anything we can offer...but Magic send back players to fill in spots. Unlike the melo trade where nuggets robbed the knicks.

 

no I guarantee lowry isnt apart of the talks unless we have an extension in play...which means lowry is not apart of the talks.

 

Then you're just playing semantics. Point is, he was in fact under contract.

He gave them an ultimatum. Trade me or screw off.

And by making it known where he intended to go, he forced their hand even further (limiting their trade partners).

If that isn't forcing their hand, I don't know what is.

The OP was right, Stars go where they want to go. Not saying it's right or wrong. But they do indeed impose their will on management.

 

A lot of players don't have the endorsements that Howard has though, so that 5th year salary could be like chump change to him and not even be a deciding factor compared to what city you want to be in for the next 4-5 years of your life.

Look at it this way. Rose has a 14year/260mil. contract with Adidas so you have to imagine Howard's contract is near that. Maybe not as much but over 200mi. of course and that's just off one endorsement.

 

Denver could have traded him to whichever team wanted him. No, Melo didn't force anything. He helped them out instead. Denver had the ultimate choice in everything.

 

So Carmelo Anthony exerted no influence in the decision to be traded to NYK?

Sure.

Look, I don't care to have a discussion about the definition of "forced" in the context of NBA bargaining.

Icehouse's statement that Carmelo walked under free agency was wrong.

The OP said "they will go wherever they like". Do you disagree with that?

The players have most of the bargaining power here. Especially the star players.

I'm not saying it is good or bad, I'm saying it's reality.

 

In the case of Lebron, the management of CLE seemed to have no choice but sent him to miami. The other teams had no chance to acquire him thanks to the tacit understanding of good friends Wade and Bosh. Carmelo to NY was even more unmanaged. DH now wants NJ then it's going to be NJ. No way Morey could get him unless digging into his mind and do an inception like Leonardo.

 

Denver didnt have to trade Melo. He told them he was leaving in the offseason, during his contract year. At least he gave Denver a choice of acquiring pieces, or cap space. Denver could have then traded him to any team in the league. There were rumors about Melo coming here (surprise). That's much better than a star keeping quiet and then leaving once a free agent. The team then had no choice.

 

Negative sir. Yes, he was under contract. But he didn't force a trade anywhere. He let it be known where he was planning on signing. He was not going to let his current team dictate his upcoming free agency. That's not imposing your will on management. That's not letting management impose their will on you as far as your upcoming free agency goes. If the current team wants something in return for me before I exercise my right to leave then we have to work together to benefit each other.

 

IMO trading for Dwight is just plain stupid at this point. Whatever team his traded to, his going to leave them high and dry. The guy simply has no intentions, regardless of what the Rockets do, to resign here!! If you believe other wise your deluding yourself!

Not to mention Orlando isn't going to want Luis Scola and Kevin Martin (large contracts). Their going to want expiring, young players and draft picks in order to rebuild. Their going to want assets like Parsons, Patterson, Morris, rights to D-Mo and the 2012 NY pick and quite frankly I don't think a 1 and 1/2 month rent of Dwight Howard is worth that!

I say we forget this 'Prima Donna' and look instead into trading Martin and Scola even if its just for expiring's and draft picks.