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Southern Republicans still think Obama is Muslim

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Batman Jones, Mar 12, 2012.

  1. kyle_R

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    And the first post was a link to a poll that had 45% of repubs thinking he's Muslim. I don't know where you went to school, but 45% is not a majority. Nice try? More like you fail, and then need to argue why you fail.
     
  2. Dubious

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    He just told you NYU Theater.
     
  3. Batman Jones

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    How many times do I have to use the term "plurality or majority?" Do you understand what "plurality" means? What is it with you guys and reading comprehension?
     
  4. Batman Jones

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    And, for the millionth time, WTF is your problem with facts?

    I do not think 45% is a majority and I never said I did. I might as well put it in my signature that kyler thinks 99% is a minority. You are an idiot. And you are willfully ignorant.
     
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    It's not the thread that's dumb, but you're right you've definitely spent enough time in here.
     
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    so you are telling me black people were not excited and for many voted for the very first time simply because there was a black candidate? It's exactly like all the fans Yao and Lin brought in. There were a crap load of fans who have never watched a single basketball game and barely understand the rules. They tuned in simply because Yao/Lin are asian. My mistake was making use the word all. But there is A LOT..
     
  8. Dubious

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    It was serendipitous.

    The best candidate, aligned with their interests, and a breakthrough in racial acceptance.

    Conservatism would still have blacks segregated if liberalism hadn't pushed civil rights in the 60's.
     
  9. Batman Jones

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  10. SunsRocketsfan

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    so what you are trying to say is conservatives = racists? Is that your claim?

    Also you might want to read up on history first regarding the Republican party
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)

    Founded in Northern States in 1854 by anti-slavery activists, modernizers, ex-Whigs and ex-Free Soilers, the Republican Party quickly became the principal opposition to the dominant Democratic Party and the briefly popular Know Nothing Party. The main cause was opposition to the Kansas–Nebraska Act, which repealed the Missouri Compromise by which slavery was kept out of Kansas. The Republicans saw the expansion of slavery as a great evil. The first public meeting where the name "Republican" was suggested for a new anti-slavery party was held on March 20, 1854 in a schoolhouse in Ripon, Wisconsin.[5]

    The first official party convention was held on July 6, 1854 in Jackson, Michigan. By 1858, the Republicans dominated nearly all Northern states. The Republican Party first came to power in 1860 with the election of Lincoln to the Presidency and Republicans in control of Congress and the northern states. It oversaw the saving of the union, the destruction of slavery, and the provision of equal rights to all men in the American Civil War and Reconstruction, 1861-1877.[6]

    The Republicans' initial base was in the Northeast and the upper Midwest. With the realignment of parties and voters in the Third Party System, the strong run of John C. Fremont in the 1856 Presidential election demonstrated it dominated most northern states. Early Republican ideology was reflected in the 1856 slogan "free labor, free land, free men."[7]

    "Free labor" referred to the Republican opposition to slave labor and belief in independent artisans and businessmen. "Free land" referred to Republican opposition to plantation system whereby the rich could buy up all the good farm land and work it with slaves, leaving the yeoman independent farmers the leftovers. The Party had the goal of containing the expansion of slavery, which would cause the collapse of the Slave Power and the expansion of freedom.[8]

    Lincoln, representing the fast-growing western states, won the Republican nomination in 1860 and subsequently won the presidency. The party took on the mission of saving the Union and destroying slavery during the American Civil War and over Reconstruction. In the election of 1864, it united with pro-war Democrats to nominate Lincoln on the National Union Party ticket.
     
  11. Batman Jones

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    Oops. One mea culpa:

    Mixed up SunsRocketsFan with kyleR but I'm sure everyone can understand and forgive that since they suffer from the same appetites for truthiness and allergy to facts.
     
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    What is the point of debating someone who is so closed minded and has made up their mind on every single issue already? That's exactly why I tend to ignore politics. There really is no point. You are never going to get a conservative to see things the way liberals do and vice versa. It's just two parties who brain washed the masses and just point fingers at each other and try to get people to vote for them. But from all your posts this seems to be your form of entertainment so thats cool.
     
  13. Batman Jones

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    Polls have repeatedly demonstrated over the last few years that:

    1. Republicans often believe things that are absolutely not true, and
    2. Democrats don't.

    That is not a generalization, it is not an opinion, it is not a bias.

    It is a simple reporting of fact, it is the only point of the thread and it is a fact which you have repeatedly dodged.

    That you take it to be anything other than that simple, empirically demonstrated fact suggests you could use some remedial reading courses.
     
  14. Dubious

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    Yes. I grew up in East Texas in the 60's. But, back then we called conservatives Southern Democrats.

    The idea of conservatism is to maintain the staus quo, or at least a romanticized perception of the status quo as it serves the money in power.

    Marginalized blacks were the exploited labor of the 60's; 1960's and 1860's.
     
  15. CometsWin

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    Didn't you just say that almost all black people voted for Obama because he's black? You know this because you're open minded and follow politics well.

    Hilarious posting about Lincoln and the Civil War. How many conservatives are around from the 1850's? Yeah, I'm going to guess none. The anti-slavery party is also the anti civil and equal rights party. Nice.
     
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    Can you please explain how the Republican party is anti equal rights? Thanks
     
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    Ok, I must admit that was hard to watch.
     
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    Just Sad.
     
  19. Dubious

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    Disenfranchised peoples are more likely to adopt radical positions to increase the contrast between them and the status quo. Without the contrast they would get lost against the overwhelming mass of public opinion.

    Squeaky wheel theory.
     
  20. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Maybe you should read a little more recent Republican Party history.
     

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