Goran Dragic's numbers as a starter (potential stud?)

dragic is an unrestricted free agent in summer , id rather have lowry his contract is great

 

now that you've posted this here, some fans are gonna expect a dragic for gasol trade straight up

 

I like him but he gets himself into bad spots top much. He jumps with the ball in his hands and no where to go more than any pg I can remember.

 

i thought this guy left/got banned? DD = dangerously delusional

 

Well, I love Dragic. He and Lowry are probably my favorite rockets right now.

But, while Dragic is a 25 year old player that is already productive with room to improve, so is Lowry. Not being a consistent starter affords Dragic the opportunity to play big minutes when he is playing well and less when he is not. That's not saying he can't replicate these types of performances for an entire season, it's more to say that we know Lowry can. Lowry is proven. With his cheap salary, I don't think it makes sense to trade him unless we get a franchise player back. As much as I like Pau, I don't think he can be the difference maker we need him to be in a few years when Morey has built up a contending rotation.

 

What you have to remember about those numbers is Dragic is playing with the bench guys while Lowry has been playing with the starters.

Dragic looked like a stud last night running this team. He has energy in spades. He gave us 37 minutes of speed and forced pace and he gave our opponents sheer hell.

I love Kyle Lowry, have loved him since before we traded for him. But I think it's time to trade him. His value will never be higher than it is right now and if Kyle Lowry along with other talent gets us Dwight Howard, even on a rental basis, I'm for it. I am confident that Dragic will be a very good point guard in this league. I think he's better defensively than Kyle right now. And I think we should re-sign him in the offseason for Kyle like money and let him be our starter down the stretch this year if we can't get NJ to cave and trade DWIll to us as well.

 

As much as I like Goran, I would still be down with packaging him and Scola/Martin for Pau (plus a backup PG).

He is probably leaving in the offseason and Pau would make this team better.

 

The Rockets have cap space they can easily re-sign him if they wish to. As an unrestricted free agent his trade value is low to non-existent.

If he's signed to a new contract by the Rockets that changes his value for the Rockets and the other teams.

Pau has a 15% trade kicker. if traded his remaining salary will be $21,564,150, $21,850,00, and $22,135,850.

 

Ok, if you want to trade Lowry because his value is high and you believe that Goran is at the very least a slight downgrade if not an upgrade entirely (which I happen to disagree with), you still have to face the fact that Flynn is NOT an NBA player at this point.

That being said, what will have to happen is receiving a back-up PG in the deal for Lowry, thereby lowering the return for him or requiring more on our end to get the extra player. Either way, we probably won't upgrade that position, and it doesn't seem to make much sense unless you believe Goran will take a Jeremy Lin-esque type step up in his game.

I like Goran a lot and believe his role as a back-up PG/occasional off-guard is great for this team. And every thing DD and Redstaag have said in this thread is entirely inane.

 

Sure we have the cap to re-sign him, but:
a) We don't overpay
b) Why would he re-sign here when he can get a starting job somewhere else (possibly to somebody who would overpay)

3 years is not that bad of a contract. It will be a huge expiring after 1.5 seasons if he does not work out.

 

I think if Goran gets backup money (say $15 mil over 4 years), that he will be a value steal.

 

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/first-person-made-10-000-ebay-last-163100368.html

A dude made 10,000 in pocket selling stuff on ebay he bought in thift stores.

 

I had another window open. wrong thread.

 

I agree and I'd even push that a bit higher and say he would still be a steal (up to $18-19 mil)

 

And I agree with that. I think if he gets the same contract Kyle Lowry gets, that in a year, he will be viewed just like Kyle is now.

 

I'm not the slightest bit worried about backup point guard if CLee is still on this roster.

And besides that, I'd be okay with signing Will Conroy again myself.

 

I have good news and bad news.

The good news: We have two points guards that are highly underrated. One that is almost (if not already) All-Star talent and one who would start on at least 50% of NBA teams and perform well. One is on one of the best contracts in the league and one is going to be on a great contract next season.

The bad news: One is not going to be with us next year. With Lowry being our best asset (due to his level of play and contract), and Dragic's contract expiring and most likely to get paid starter's pay, we will not be able to keep both. Dragic deserves a chance to shine. He is a winner. Lowry is a winner. They both play so well together and I am confident in either of the two. With Lowry being injured atm, that may stop any trade from being completed including him. But, Dragic is not. I think Dragic is the most likely to be traded in the next 4 days.

It's a good problem to have, IMO. We went so long trying to find a good PG and now we have two very talented PG's. Not SG's in a PG's body; but, two awesome PG's.

 

CLee is not a good point guard. Yes he is able to handle the ball, but I want you to watch where he goes with it. He NEVER is able to get past his man while he has a live dribble. He has to catch and use his first step to do it. He moves from left to right and right to left and never gets in the paint due to it.

I love CLee's defense and I think he is one of the best defenders in the league (top 15 and top 3 at his position).

But, CLee is no point guard. Where is Ish the Dish?

 

We're talking about backup point guard man. We're talking about 10 minutes a game.

 

I know. But, when there is no direction in the offense, 10 minutes is a long time. We're also talking about times where your starting PG is injured (or sick with a stomach ache). Let's say your starting PG is in foul trouble. Sometimes in those situations those 10 minutes turn into 20 and 20 into 30.

Lee is a great guy, great defender, and great spot up shooter (as long as he doesn't have to create his own shot). But, I would not build a plan D with Lee as backup unless if there is another play-maker on the court at the 3.