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[CBS] Rockets, Warriors open to Dwight Howard rental

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Mar 8, 2012.

  1. Clutch

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    Well it's all speculation, but ... Kyle Lowry, Patrick Patterson, Donatas Motiejunas, Sergio Llull, NYK's first round pick and possibly Marcus Morris and Chandler Parsons are the Rockets' best young assets.
     
  2. xiki

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    It's difficult to make the assets match the dollars necessary. The assets may well each and every one be valuable but if one is to believe their octogenarian owner he wants to win. Today. How many of our assets match that intent, if factual, of course?

    I am not dissing what we have I am questioning how it can match up with Orlando's agenda. I like our pieces.

    BTW - - I love Lowry. Trade him. He is the single most likely asset available to net the biggest fish IMHO.
     
  3. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    all of those guys < Bynum
     
  4. Icehouse

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    I'd love to see us rent him because even if he does walk then we can finally chill with this mediocore BS and just rebuild.
     
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  5. jrett121

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    I live in LA and I really don't believe Bynum is on the block; the Lakers are much more likely to trade Pau. Also, I don't believe Dwight wants to come to LA.

    Like Reeko said, I would bet the farm on Dwight and if he leaves, then we can actually rebuild.
     
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    Orlando is in a terrible position. They have a bunch of contracts no one wants, and thus no cap room to bring in the necessary pieces to complement Howard.

    IMO, Howard is definitely done in Orlando. If I'm their FO, I want picks, youth, and unloading Turks contract. While Bynum is obviously very good, LA can't provide the other pieces necessary to make a deal work. It's not as simple as Bynum for Howard or I imagine Orlando would have done that by now.

    Here is what the Rockets can offer.

    Martin, Dalembert, Thabeet, Patterson, and NYK pick for Howard and Turk. This gives Orlando many of the pieces they want, but primarily it provides cap relief. Dalembert and Thabeet can come off the books next year which opens up $13-14 million, on top of the $4 million they save on this off the bat. That's essentially $20 million they save over the next two years. They get Patterson as a young piece, as well as the NYK pick. Then you have Martin, who could be traded to a 3rd team if Orlando would rather have picks. So let's see here....

    - ~$20-30 million in cap relief over next two years (Martin traded for pick)
    - Patterson
    - Two 1st round picks (NYK plus Martin trade, which could potentially bring them even more cap relief)

    High risk/reward move for the Rockets. Rebuilding/cost cutting for Orlando.
     
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  7. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    The Lakers aren't training Bynum. The Lakers new GM and new president is the same person who drafted and groomed Bynum. no way in hell he trades him he said himself.
     
  8. Clutch

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    Exactly. I know we're talking fantasy here, but just to play along with it -- if the Rockets got Dwight Howard without giving up more than Luis Scola, Kevin Martin and some of the young assets I listed above (excluding Lowry), they could contend. This year.

    A starting lineup of Lowry, Lee, Parsons, Patterson and Howard, coached by McHale, could be a scary good defensive team.

    Scoring? That's another story.
     
  9. emjohn

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    It all comes down to Orlando, but I would happily overpay for Dwight. We've got to blow up this team anyway.

    I don't think you could put an offer out there I wouldn't sign up for.

    Worst case scenario is, we FINALLY empty out and can honestly rebuild. Best case scenario, he stays and brings along Deron.

    Tilting an offer as extremely as I can:

    Lowry
    Martin
    Parsons
    Their choice of Patterson or Morris
    Dalembert
    Terrence Williams

    Knicks pick, both 2012 second rd picks, our 2012 pick if lottery or future pick, top-3 protected.

    rights to Lull and Monty.

    $3M cash to offset waiving 2-3 guys

    for
    Howard
    Turk
    Their bad contract choice between Richardson, Redick, or Davis
    ($35M total, max)

    Orlando saves roughly $7M immediately, $14M if tax dollars are included. Orlando jettisons two bad contracts and gets a jump on rebuilding.

    We are STILL left with:

    Dragic
    Lee
    Budinger (maybe Morris)
    Scola (maybe Patterson), Hill
    Dwight

    with Turk and another usable rotation bench guy.

    I do it ten times out of ten.....but of course I would.
     
  10. Sooner423

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    Bud might re-enter the lineup in that scenario.
     
  11. AirBud#10

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    Trade for Smith and Howard that wold give us a chance of him resigning.
     
  12. johnstarks

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    Cleverly disguised way to get the team to tank despite Les' no tanking directive.

    If Dwight re-ups, we got a superstar that could attract other superstars. If he bounces, we rebuild.
     
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    Y'all are delusional. Not trade Bynum for Howard... lol.
     
  14. RV6

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    Orlando doesn't seem to want Bynum, if it's because of his health, then all those guys may be > bynum
     
  15. Amel

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    ...I see this going nowhere...
     
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    Don’t think they would want Scola. Scola is overpaid and declining at this point.

    Wish we could get Howard without giving up Lowry, but I doubt they would even consider it.
     
  17. Clutch

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    That is a BIG risk right there... I think too big of a risk. Being saddled with bad contracts AND giving up a future pick with only top 3 protection means you can't rebuild if Howard walks this summer. The pick especially you have to keep.

    If you know you can keep Dwight and you still have cap room, then you can try to sign Deron and yeah, I'd give up and anything and everything.

    If it's rental and you hope to align the stars to keep him and get Deron here, then yeah I'd be willing to give up a lot, but not any picks that have the "Houston Rockets" name on them.
     
  18. Ziggy

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    Exactly -- Orlando doesn't want Bynum (or plays it off that way). We don't have a contingent of players that are more valuable than Bynum. I doubt his health is an issue. If it was, then fine, I can name several other players that are more valuable than what the Rockets can package.
     
  19. OremLK

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    Anyway, if it takes that much to get Howard I'll eat my hat. NOBODY will offer that much for him, I don't care who they are or how much they want him. I suspect about 1/2 to 2/3 of that is where his value sits right now.
     
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    owning the website means never having to say you're sorry
     
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