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Either Melo or Lin has to go! The two can't co-exist

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by typhooonn, Mar 7, 2012.

  1. Mr. Space City

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    melo played well with billups and got to a WCF.
     
  2. cod

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    The Knicks should try to trade both Melo and Lin for Deron Williams.
     
  3. BONIERO1576

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    Terrible examples. Other than the last pairing all of those teams were in fact very good teams in a tough Western Conference. If they struggled anywhere it was on the defensive end, they never struggled to put up points. The Amare Melo pairing is a lot like the Lebron/ Wade pairing. They are both elite players but there is too much overlap in their strengths, so they don't get good balance out of them. They can eventually figure it out (like Wade and Lebron have) but one of them is going to have to play with their back to the basket.

    You still don't give up on Melo to accomadate Lin, that would be a huge mistake.
     
  4. VanityHalfBlack

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    The Amare/Melo pairing is a lot like the Lebron/Wade pairing, really???? In what universe???
     
  5. egr281

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    Did you not see where i said "top 10 player" also? And go tell KB24 and KD that bein a top scorer dont mean ****..Melo is not overrated atall, Hes a great scorer who can do it in the post and from the perimeter, just because your idol t-mac fell of doesnt mean you have to campare melo to him.. In the PLAYOFFS you need a SCORER who can do it in any kind of way and melo is just that.. And melos resume stretches alot longer than jeremy lins, lmfao at people getting in the lin buzz after 2 weeks of good play, and even when he was hot he was still a turnover machine
     
  6. BONIERO1576

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    I'm not comparing talent level, I mean that both pairings are two players that have a very similar styles of play. Lebron and Wade are perimeter playmakers/scorers. Melo/Amare are both face up post players and jump shooters.

    Last year Miami had trouble late in games because they basically only ran two plays: PnR or top of the key, or iso with either player. But that essentially cancelled out the other player that wasn't handling the ball. Maimi is playing better this year because Lebron made a commitment to playing in the post, so you now have the balance of inside/outside. Melo and Amare are both most effective receiving the ball facing up on the block. For them to play better one of them is going to have to modify his game and commit to play in the post.
     
  7. lloyde8

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    Did u actually see watch the game? Rondo was 7-20 from the field. Lin has a problem moving around screens but one on one he played pretty good position defense.
     
  8. lloyde8

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    Its kinda funny that when he played for the Warriors they said his defense was ahead of his offense and that he was such a good defender.
     
  9. roslolian

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    Yes those were good teams however Denver IIRC was also extremely stacked, they boasted a front line of Kenyon Martin, Nene and Camby as well as a host of good role players on the bench, so they were pretty good regardless. But the fact is Melo brought the Nuggs' team down, and you can see how they improved so much after they traded him for half the NY roster.

    NYC going 8-1 before Melo was more hype than real talent, however all you gotta do is watch an NYC game to see that Melo is destroying the team's offense, which was starting to hum and get going (unfortunately). The dude who proposed a Melo/Chandler trade for DHoward would be a great idea for NYC, I'm sure DHoward would love to play with Amare and Linsanity.
     
  10. vlaurelio

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    you give up Melo and replace him with another superstar who can play with Amare and Lin
     
  11. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    You give up Amare and replace him with a star PF that can play with Lin and Melo:p
     
  12. MamboRock

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    Keep Germany, he can lin his team to victory on every other night.
     
  13. ivanyy2000

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    In order for Melo to function well, the team need players who don't need a lot of touches and can knock down outside shots. He need a bunch of solid role players who play hard nose defense for him, grab rebounds, do the dirty work and let him focus on the only thing he is good at: ISO at low box and score one on one.

    Unfortunately NY Knicks only have 2.5 players fit his style: Tyson, Jeffies and Novak.

    Plus he is not that dominant offensively like LeBron, Dirk, Kobe...
     
  14. VanityHalfBlack

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    Wanted in Chinatown, lol....

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  15. munco

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    Being a big time scorer is great if your scoring is leading to your teams winning games. It's great to have a big time scorer in the playoffs but that means nothing if your big time scorer can't get you into the playoffs.

    It seems a bit unfair that Melo is getting most of the blame for the Knicks recent fall-off, but he's getting paid like a superstar. If you watch the Knicks play lately they don't play with urgency or energy. During the whole Linsanity phase guys were playing much harder, especially on defense. When you watch the Knicks play now they look a lot like they did when they were out of the playoff race.
     
  16. CoolColJ

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    Your watching the game, but your watching it

    You don't stop good PG in this league one on one, it's why they're in the league. None of the other PG can stop Lin either. He was blowing by Lowry. Even Rondo, and isn't he supposed to be an Elite defender? Parker couldn't stop him either.

    The difference is he is getting defended like an Elite player with doubles, traps and help defence collasping on him in the lane. The other PG get help.

    While Lin gets not much help on his end. When he gets picked, the man guarding the picker doesn't help, usually Amare, and it makes Lin look a lot worse. If you get picked your always going to be a step behind the dribbler... makes it much harder to defend...
    Team defence as I said. A lot of guys on the Knicks team, the so called Superstars, have poor defensive fundamentals and are just plain lazy

    Makes you wonder why the other PG go off right?

    With a team core like this, and team management just as bad, why would you want to play here long term? If no trades happen, I'd be looking for a way out :)
     
  17. esteban

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    The reason I started watching the NBA again is because of Lin. During his run without Melo, Amare, Smith and Davis, it was fun watching Lin did his magic. The past 3 games were a complete different story, Lin was not sure of himself, he walked the ball up and dumped it to Melo, the ball stopped moving, you can see the body language of these Knicks, they're not playing together anymore. Lin, Shumpert, Fields, Jeffries, Novack and Chandler are not playing good minutes anymore.

    Davis, Smith and Melo are what hurting the Knicks right now. The Knicks found their chemistry before and now it's gone. D'antoni is really in a no win situation even though he sucks when it comes coaching.

    Well it's time for me to stop watching again. Good luck Jeremy!
     
  18. Karolik

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    Carmelo Anthony for Kevin Durant


    Problem Solved.

    Hey it didn't have to be realistic :grin:
     
  19. Spooner

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    Maybe you want to play there because it's in New York?? I don't know....

    Jeremy Lin went 3 for 9 with 3 turnovers for 9 points in 20 minutes against Kyle Lowry. Does that sound like he "blew by him"?

    He went 6-16 with 6 turnovers for 14 points in 32 minutes against Rondo. Meanwhile Rondo had a record setting performance. Yeah, sure seems like Jeremy Lin got the best of Rondo there....

    Lin didn't play a great game against the Spurs. Don't let his garbage time buckets fool you. Meanwhile, Tony Parker exploded like he usually does. If you don't think Parker was doubled, you weren't watching the game. Shumphert was inserted into the starting lineup to harass him.

    I have no idea how you can say Lin got the better of any of the point guards you mentioned. Quite frankly he didn't "blow by" anyone.

    You go from one of the easiest schedules in the league to one of the hardest. Now everyone is shuffling for excuses as to why nothing Linsane is happing.
    Really???? You seriously don't think maybe the strength of opponents have something to do with this? Half the games Lin played during Linsanity weren't even good games. Going 8 for 24 with 6 turnovers for a mere 20 points in close to 40 minutes is good??? OH, BUT HE BEAT THE TORONTO RAPTORS THAT GAME!! ALL HE DOES IS LIN!!


    Of course Melo gets all the blame....LMFAO.....
     
  20. CoolColJ

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    He blew by Lowry - Lowry couldn't stop him one on one

    evidence
    <iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/8mBOFu34-sU?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


    Same as all the other PG he has faced. They can't stop him one on one
    He's quick...
     

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