In Texas, Islamic Schools Face Tough Road To Participation

I went to high school and competed under the former TCIL and later TAPPS. It is not uniquely Christian, and not all the member schools are Christian.... further many of the schools have no interaction with one another beyond athletics....... probably hard to understand that 1000's of miles away from the situation.

 

So what exactly are we arguing over again?

 

It was originally uniquely Christian, now it's about 90 % Christian, I provided the sources, but who cares, how is this especially relevant? It's a private association and they can admit or refuse whomever they want.

 

Heh....wait, you mean when you guys played Second Baptist, they didn't try to baptize you...?

Because in Germany, I learned this was TRUTH ON DER WIKI!

As an aside, I assume it's the freaks from 2nd Baptist or Northwest Academy or whatever weirdo christian school that are in the TAPPS office and defending loop 610 from the Moorish menace, with respect to the questionnaire in question. I doubt (hope? who knows) the Basilian fathers wouldn't be behind such athing. But, you can never be sure these days.

 

DO NOT TOUCH THE TRIM!

 

Repped!!!

 

Private is private, at least when it comes to extracurriculars.

 

Yes, clearly a PR stunt:


Iman Academy applied for membership to TAPPS in 2010, but the association denied the school’s request. After being rejected two years ago, Principal Cindy Steffens did not go public with the story, but The New York Times uncovered the Houston academy’s name last week and ran an article about the controversy.

 

Which is perfectly fine. However, TAPPS needs to be clear and say that religion is a factor in who joins the organization. TAPPS needs to shut its mouth and not pretend it is non-denominational.

 

it is nondenominational. You can be catholic, protestant jewish or none of the above (unless you're muslim.....)

 

They didnt let the Jesuit schools in so Catholics arent allowed either

 

Good- because you wouldn't have understood any of it since you don't know jack **** all about houston high school sports outside of bingkipedia .

Why this bothers you - I don't know, or maybe that we know this is why. Good.

 

Lost in all your hysterical blabber with which you unsuccessfully try to claim superior knowledge about the immensely important topic of Houston high school athletics you get all defensive about, you missed noticing that basically all your statements of fact made on that topic have been refuted as incorrect.

Then again, you must be used to that from your day job (if you have one - the unintended hilarity of you mocking my activity on this BBS when you have more than 7,000 more posts in 3 less years on the BBS than me must have escaped you (yeah, I went back and skimmed through your non-sensical drivel)).

 

I think this is the issue. TAPPS never was anything. TCIL was the Christian league that was overtly Christian and stipulated it in its rules. (originally it was Catholic only but that changed to Christian) TCIL died for several reasons but among those was the fact that towards the end it wasn't that competitive as the larger Catholic schools were dominating football. Once TAPPS was formed, TAPPS conviently made up some bs rules to specifically prevent the Jesuit schools from joining TAPPS. (They later sued UIL and got into that)

TAPPS's constitution doesn't explicitly say that it is Christian only at all. I believe today it has 6 or 7 non-denominational schools as well as the one Jewish school.

Now that being said, TAPPS has much of the old TCIL leadership and while it isn't explicitly Christian it has rules that would suggest it (such as not having games on Sundays).

TAPPS can do what it wants but it is a bit silly that it would single out Muslim schools when it had no problem with secular schools or an Orthodox Jewish school. And the phrasing of those questions is pretty insulting.

Unfortunately private school extracurriculars are made up in such a way that you don't have much of a choice. Either you're a very expensive prep school and you're part of the SPC or you're part of TAPPS. That's why the Jesuits sued UIL. They really didn't have much of a choice. They couldn't join SPC or TAPPS. So I hope you can at least sympathize with the frustrations of the Muslim schools who simply don't have another league to join. I'm sure they'd much prefer to join a different league but such an option doesn't exist. And more than all of the dumb politics, its the kids that lose. Not having access to extracurriculars is a tragedy as they are pretty critical to the academic experience as a whole for any student.

 

I don't even understand why sports competitions between schools of various denominations have to be run along the lines of religious affiliation at all. Then again, some religions have very overt symbols of religious beliefs like requirements for a headscarf or more, which are interpreted by some as discriminatory (and hindering in sports). I guess it would just be easier if there was one private association that organizes sports competitions for students regardless of their religious affiliation.

As a sidenote, my high school in Germany didn't seem to have any sport competitions with other high schools at all. There weren't even competitions of the different classes against each other within the same high school year in the same school. Never really thought about it, but it would have been fun. The whole culture of sports/athletics as "the school's pride" isn't prevalent in Germany, neither in high school nor in college. I don't think there are athletic scholarships like in the US either. Sports take place in private clubs instead.

 

Spoiler

No not at all. These immigrants are not doing anything illegal in having cultural problems.

If there is a problem with the immigrants, then there is a problem with the methodology of allowing immigrants into the country and the rules/rights in place (or not in place) to mitigate the difficulties of cultural integration, at least temporarily. For example if Indonesia or Germany have allowed immigration, they are responsible for managing it. That's solely on the shoulders of the governments of those countries. They are responsible for the implementation of the experiment and the approval of the individuals involved, which they claim has failed. It's not that multikulti has failed, far from it. It's the fact that their attempt at multikulti failed (let's not discuss why), and rather than say "We failed in implementing multikulti" they decided to say "multikulti has failed" which implies that multikulti is either illogical or a lost cause.

As for why most immigrants have "something" in common, once again, you can be assured it was no surprise to the people who let them come in.

The criticism is fully warranted IMO.

Your last statement pretty much sums your mindset up. You shouldn't toy with the concept of grouping people together in this way, as I'm sure you're aware nothing valuable comes from it.

If you'd like to discuss please start another thread, this discussion is derailing the thread.

 

What is so hindering about the headscarf in sports? Have you not seen a player playing, say, soccer in a hoodie?

 

Why didn't you?

 

The headscarf is a ridiculous, medieval symbol of oppression. Less so than a full veil or burkha, but still.

Aside from that, try a header in soccer with a headscarf. Sudden blindness from a dislocated headscarf presents an injury risk .

It's laughable that the UNO tries to force FIFA to allow headscarves in international matches.

 

Nothing more to say.