Either Melo or Lin has to go! The two can't co-exist

Lin & Melo can coexist. Melo & D'antoni -- that's the real issue.

 

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Where is Jeffries? Who is Humphries?

 

Gentlemen ya'll sound like your almost cheering for the knicks, let's hope they don't figure things out so that we can have a higher draft pick.

 

Come on losing streak!!!

 

This.

Aside from the fact that opposing defenses have figured out that if you shut down Lin you can shut down the Knicks completely. The Knicks really did a disservice to Lin by putting so much hype behind him. Lin is a marginal talent if they're going to rely on him to break traps and double teams they're in trouble. If he is getting more shots and touches than Carmelo they're in trouble. But I'm perfectly happy to let them figure this out for themselves. Tony Parker is next in line to haze Lin, let's see how that works out.

 

but whatever they do, they'll still end in the playoffs..so the 16th pick is ours.

 

I've never liked Carmelo. Something about him just isn't winning. He gets stats but he is in the antawn Jamison category.

 

Lin is good but struggles against an aggressive trap off the PnR. That's not exactly a surprise, since it is only the truly elite players (DWill, Paul, Nash, etc) who can consistently handle it. Even TMac had trouble against the hard trap in 2006 and 2007 when he was still mostly healthy, notably in the Utah playoff series.

The problem with the Knicks is that the other players don't know how to adjust when Lin is getting doubled. They might get better at this, but Melo doesn't like playing off-the-ball so there's a pretty good chance they won't figure this out.

 

And amare has always been soft big man. All his points are patterson jumpers and some nice dunks. Who's the guy that debated with me saying Amare is post scorer and bangs down low bullsheet.

 

We should trade 4 melo da same ones bashing him now were da same ones begging and pleading 2 get him 4rm Denver get er done morey this is the trade data goin 2 come out if left field

 

when melo was injured and lin took over the knicks they were on a winning streak but when melo returned they lost. to me i say knicks keep lin but get rid of melo and D'antoni because ever since lin went to new york hes been a one man show. melo on the other hand had the spotlight when he first came to new york but lin took that away from him.

 

If he averages 15 - 17 ppg by the end of the season he will have improved on his current ppg. He is currently averaging 14.6 ppg

BTW, for those that think the problem is Dantoni ask yourself one question, what person on the Knicks team they have not been able to win with? Dantoni or Melo?

 

the knicks are playing better opponents on the road.

heat on the road
celtics on the road
mavs on the road.

the knicks played some sub-par teams during the "lin streak" and the decent teams they did play, it was at MSG

lin is a decent player but having him take more shots than melo and having him dribble out the basketball with everybody ball watching is easy to stop when you trap the ball handler.

 

Relatively close to my opinion.

Carmelo said he wanted the Knicks to be prepared like the Heat after their loss to them. And that alone shows why he doesn't get it. Lebron and Wade were running around like rabid dogs - it starts and ends with leading by example. Melo's energy and intensity are NOTHING like the top tier stars. If he had half of Chandler's attitude he'd be up there. It's like he expects someone else to be the impetus. He's no leader and it's very frustrating to watch.

They sucked against the Mavs, but the role players turned up the defense and that's why they came back and tied it. Then it went back to lazy ball and the Mavs put them away again.

As for Lin - for all the talk about adjusting, he's really had to do the most. From being the #1 option on scoring and passing, he's forced to make plays without attacking and being the #3 scoring option at best. The Knicks have a lot of work to do if they want to reach their potential on paper. I didn't watch that 7-15 version of the team but I'm guessing this is pretty close. It's a mess.

Also I hate seeing Chandler having to take a back seat to Melo and Amare.

 

A few things to consider. DeAntoni never wanted Anthony. From day one he felt that Amare and Anthony were a poor mix. He had a chance to see them practice and play together on the Olympic team and believed they cancelled each other out. So, although DeAntoni has not done a great job, not all of the blame should fall on his shoulders.

Look, the Knicks knew what they were getting into. They lost out on James, Wade, Bosh and Johnson. They were desperate to be relevant and over paid a power forward that did not rebound, defend or play consistently hard. They knew Amare had a lot of mileage on his body and was prone to breaking down. You are seeing it now, he is not the player he once was.

The Knicks took Anthony because they could, not because he was a good fit for their team. He is the Knicks most talented player, but is a poor fit, and they gutted their team to get him. I am surprised he is struggling as bad as he is, I thought he would get his, but not help those around him.

Linn is a nice player that plays hard. However, he is not the player that blew up for 3 weeks. Teams are learning how to defend him (like they did Ronald Murray and Jammal Tinsley). I expect he will be a 13-15 point a game hybrid guard that turns the ball over alot and is exploited in certain match ups. He goes to the line a lot and can hit open shots... he has value, but is a role player.

Anyone that expected anything from Baron Davis is insane. He doesn't do anything but jack up 3's and complain. His athleticism is gone.

The Knicks will make the playoffs because the East is terrible, but they are a slightly above .500% team. They are a classic example of the sum of the whole being less than the sum of the parts.

 

If the Knicks were smart, they'd trade Lin and Novak now while their market value is extremely high vs selling low on every other Knick.

Lin and Novak for Gasol.

 

Lakers wouldn't do it.

 

I the whole lin has been figured out theory is bs, he still gets into the lane at will, he is defering way to much to melo on the elbow, and the thing is, melo isos are terrible offense especially when we saw how the ball was moving when he was injured, if melo sat out a couple games the knicks would go on another win streak, carmelo gums up the works pretty bad for the knicks.

 

Wow Melo and Amare off the bench? 2 top ten players? You cant be serious