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Ric Bucher keeps tying to sell a Lowry+Scola for Gasol trade

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by pge71188, Mar 6, 2012.

  1. Blaster_333

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    Err...he did it last year without a superstar and a top 3 center. Lakers HAVE a superstar and top 3 center? WTF:confused:
     
  2. Rocketfan713

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    Key word is "last year" It's obvious scola is on the decline, and yes the Lakers have a superstar (Kobe) and top 3 center (Bynum)
     
  3. kjayp

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    With Kobe pullin double teams, defense collapsing down low to front Bynum... Scola would do extremely well in LA... and at 10M/yr less than Gasol, it would give them space to acquire a better pg (Sessions) or sf (Beasley). LA knows this... they're just playin to see if they can get more... dont fall for it, Morey!
     
  4. Rocketfan713

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    Don't teams do that with Gasol? Gasol still averages 16 PPG.
     
  5. arjun

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    And that's a fair interpretation as well except for the fact that apparently the discussions have continued and Gasol still remains as the center of interest.

    There no longer is a Chris Paul to be discussed. If Morey dug his heels in on his younger talent that would include his high profile point guard. End of discussion right?

    Instead what you have are the analysts forecasting that the interest has remained high around the very idea that in order for Houston to obtain Gasol they will at least have to surrender their star powered point guard.
     
  7. megastahr

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    No...I am sure they wont take anything short of a PG in the deal for Gasol...whether thats lowry or a 3 team deal where we net them calderon or rondo or something that I dont know....but ive always felt a

    Rondo and Scola to lakers
    Pau to rockets
    Martin, dragic (morris and picks ) to celtics have always made since. They could move rondos salary get back a decent PG...have the heir to allen...and net picks from both lakers and us and a good young prospect like Patterson or Morriss to build around.

    Thats a package to go along with 2 HUGE expiring contracts in allen and garnett. Talk about from contender to REBUILT...in one year.
     
  8. kjayp

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    Exactly! They could swap Pau for Scola with no dropoff on offensive - vs Pau coming here (without those benefits) would decline... and for 10M+ more a year - PASS ON PAU!
     
  9. Blaster_333

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    If you're talking about LA not having enough shots, Scola basically takes Gasol's place in the offense. It's likely with Gasol gone Bynum will get priority in the post, but that's not to say Scola couldn't easily get 18-20 if they deferred to him.

    Now if you're saying Scola can't do it based on him "declining", the big difference between this year and last year is Rick Adelman. Without the movement and passing his offense provides, it's harder for Scola to get the spacing needed to score this year.

    It would be a different dynamic with LA though, seeing as they have 2 players that can command double teams, Scola will get all kinds of open 15 footers as well as the space needed to work in the post.
     
  10. megastahr

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    The difference is...they dont. Usually they put their best post defender on PAU and double team him. Very rarely does he have wide open 15' shots which he would nail all day.

    Scola is actually better at creating his own shot after the defender closes on him...PAU is not good at this.... Pau is however a WAYY WAYY better defneder both on team D and one on one and is shot blocking presence...He is also and EXTREMELY better POST player. Which lakes now hardly utilize so they are wasting him.

    The new coach with the lakers is just stupid and not running enough post plays for PAU...which is more efficient then any other offensive option he has. Triangle and Pau were meant for each other. Mchale knows how to make Pau effective. And I am sure Pau realizes this.
     
  11. xtruroyaltyx

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    Trade for Gasol and get Kobe too while you're at it Morey.
     
  12. xiki

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    Splitting hairs trying to get around the reality that without the subsequent deals the first deal does not get made; due to the first deal falling the subsequent deals never saw fruition.

    Yes, CD, it was "one" transaction with a body and two legs. The body crapped out the legs danced off westerly.
     
  13. kjayp

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    I repeat...

    THE MOVE (if Minnie is really interested)...

    Kmart/Dragic to Cleve, Sessions/Scola to LA, Pau/Bud to Minnie, Pekovic/Beasley/Gibson to Hou
    plus expirings and draft picks scttered around to make it work

    La gets Scola to replace Pau - and gets a pg they want
    Cleve upgrades their starting sg to downgrade bu pg
    Minnie gets Pau (why I dont know - i'd rather have Pek dollar for dollar)
    We get a 26 yr old Ceter on the rise and a defensive sf (that we can resign if we dont get a better fa option this summer)

    I'm tellin ya, folks - this is gold! ;)
    Everyone is happy!
     
  14. DrNuegebauer

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    Are there still discussions?

    And if there are, you assume that it therefore MUST involve Lowry? (I don't believe Stern wanted younger talent for LAL? Rather for NOH).
    As far as analysts go, the ones who think 'Moreylike' are saying that Lowry is untouchable as a trade asset.

    What if the discussions are ongoing because Morey is offering a different package (Dragic/Scola/youngtalent) and the Lakers are umming and ahhing over whether to take it.
     
  15. xiki

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    Just curious - - what is RB's "batting average" on predicted transactions? I have the sense it's below the proverbial Mendoza line. Anyone have something factual on this?
     
  16. Blaster_333

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    That is the reason LA should want Scola even more. Why does Gasol only average 16ppg? Because the guy is passive on offense, rarely does he show that takeover mentality, which alludes to how soft he is. Scola has shown that he is not shy about taking that ball into the post or shooting the open midrange shot when the game is on the line.
     
  17. Rocketfan713

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    I think the reason why he is averaging on 16 ppg is because Andrew Bynum is playing healthy and not missing games. When Bynum wasn't playing Gasol's PPG is up.

    I just hope we get an inside pressence who can rebound.
     
  18. megastahr

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    lol thats not it at all..do you actually watch the game? Last year they would run set POST plays for Pau probablly 75% more than they do this year. I watched a game where they may have set him up in the post 5 times the entire game... and when they did it was sloppy and he got double teamed and had to take a bad shot.

    The new coach is an idiot and has given the reigns to kobe to do whatever he wants... If pau comes here with mcale he will avg 20 PPG the rest of the way...book it.
     
  19. stylus8088

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    I also think it's cuz he's teammates with Kobe...
     
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    Bucher= the new sam smith.
     

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