No, it isn't. There are health reasons aside from moral codes for why incest, pedophilia and things like that are banned. But either you believe it is immoral to discriminate based on sexual preference or you don't. You've made it clear where you stand. Stop pretending otherwise.
If you'd read my post you'd never have been able to post this. Please read and give a proper response to my thread, which addressed all this (except for your inane reference to pedophilia), or STFU. Also: "deep seated" not "deep seeded." Get a brain, moran.
There once was this city of Sodom... To me they are just giving to Christian organizations. OMG, they gave to the FCA. They hate gays everybody. How could they ever give money to those Christian athletes. It is just terrible. It would be different if they were refusing service to gays, or something to that effect. You are just looking for something to b**** about. It is as bad as my step-brother refusing to eat Heinz ketchup. Seriously?
When the entire group that constitutes the GLBT community is denied equal rights in this country, I really don't have to look very far for "something to b**** about." Please see my post to bigtexxx on the previous page. I am pro-Christ and pro-Christian. I am also pro-equality and anti-discrimination. As I said in my post to texxx, Christianity advises not to sin; it does not advise judging others. If one is worried over homosexuality, he ought not practice it. And that ought to be the end of it. According to Christ, it is not for us to judge and it is certainly not for us to advocate for legislation that follows in that judgment. In fact, the stones being thrown by certain members of certain churches against the gay community are ones that Christ explicitly forbade throwing. As a Christian, or as an advocate of Christians, or as someone that seems to think that I am anti-Christian, I would ask you kindly to please read my long post to texxx and give a considered reply to it.
For juicystream, since he apparently missed it the first time... http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=6669629&postcount=59
Explain why you are against Chick-fil-a? Because they gave to a charity that focuses on the family, that features some prominent anti-gay marriage donors? It is laughable. Everyone of the organization is Christian/family based, and discriminating against gays is not exactly their primary mission. Plenty of Christians consider homosexuality to be a sin. Personally, I think Christianity is a champion of hypocrisy. I think giving to a church is a bit of a joke as a charitable organization while we have children dying from cancer and hunger, but it isn't my place to tell people what to do. A business providing me with a service that I find valuable isn't going to lose my business because they spend their money in different ways than I would.
I'm against Chik-Fil-A because (a) I am vegan and am against the killing and eating of animals, and (b) because I am pro-equality and anti-discrimination. You asked me to "please explain that to you." I did. Now "please explain to me" your continued insinuation that I am anti-Christian after the post in which I both explained that I am pro-Christian and try to live my life in a way that would please Christ and also in which I addressed every point in your last two posts to me. Why do you keep making the same accusations and asking the same questions when I've answered them definitively? Why do you refuse to answer my other, longer, detailed post on this exact matter, the one that puts the lie to your accusations and answers the questions you continue repeating?
I've never accused you of being anti-Christian. No idea where you are getting that. I don't know why you want me to respond to something I'm not asking you. Because your answers while perhaps buried in here, never address Chick-fil-a when replying to me, which is specifically what I was asking about. People boycotting Chick-fil-a is sadder than boycotting the Susan Komen foundation because they gave money to planned parenthood designed to go to their non-abortion purposes. At least Chick-fil-a is giving you something, while the Susan Komen foundation would have spent half your money on advertising, and you could just cut out the middle man and donate to the charity ultimately getting the money.
Um, check the very first line of the post you just quoted. You continually characterize these organizations as being "Christian" and because of that you say that it's dumb to protest them because only a portion of the money they spend is spent trying to prevent gays from having equal rights. The longer post I keep asking you to read and respond to explains why I believe these organizations are in fact not Christian. Or that they are made up of bad Christians, as judging others as sinners (and taking that to the point of legislation) when all Christians consider themselves to be sinners is fundamentally un-Christian. For the ninetieth time, if someone believes homosexuality is a sin against God that someone should not engage in homosexuality. Even if some people can point to a place or two in the Bible that seems to deem homosexuality a sin (and I think you know the Bible is chock full of other advice we all consider to be heinous today), NOBODY can point to a place in the Bible that in any way insinuates it is the responsibility or the business of Christians to prevent others from sinning; or worse, to penalize them for it. In fact the Bible and Jesus explicitly said not to do that. You're like basso or giddyup all of a sudden in this thread when it comes to willful ignorance of what I've said here. What's wrong with you today?
I was talking about all your responses prior to the one i was replying to. Christians believe that everyone is a sinner (short of Jesus Christ). You are calling them non-Christian organizations, because they differ from your views as a Christian. That just makes you two different sects of Christianity. My experience is most Christians believe homosexuality is a sin. It is also of my knowledge that the Bible says it is not for us to judge. I'm not disagreeing with you that they shouldn't stay out of others business. At the same time you shouldn't be judging them either. Personally, if Christians really gave a damn, they'd remember that Jesus was a devout Jew, and thus followed Jewish beliefs and traditions that modern Christians often ignore. Chick-fil-a isn't necessarily spending money to fight against gay marriage. I was in FCA (mostly because friends were) and not once was homosexuality ever mentioned. The FCA is very much a Christian organization, whether you like it or not. I believe gay marriage should be a right, but I have no problem with the FCA either. They don't have to be right on every issue. I'm not going to condemn any organization for giving their money to organizations that foster their religious beliefs. I believe in religious freedom, even if their views are different than mine.
I think everyone is missing the point here.... that these nuggets are just too damn delcious... mmmmm btw if two people want to be together let them freaken be together.. I don't see why the govt is even in the whole marriage issue. If a church/religion refuses to recognize/marry two people of the same sex freaken let them do that too. meh time to go and get some yummy nuggets
Dude, give me a break. I'm not saying it's too hard. I'm saying it's pointless. Every corporation's hands are dirty, so it's POINTLESS. Unless you're living a self-sustaining lifestyle, growing your own food and not patronizing pretty much any consumer product producing company in this country, it's just a matter of looking for more things to be outraged about. You are completely free to boycott, man. Go for it. Do what you want. It's your right. It's also my right to make fun of you for it because it's ridiculous and ultimately a fruitless endeavor. I'd rather spend my time affecting society by spending my saved time from not going around wearing my moral outrage on my sleeve and instead spending it with my children and teaching them that everyone deserves the same rights as everyone else, no one deserves to be ostracized, and that they should stand up for people who can't stand up for themselves so that in 25 years this is no longer an issue and people don't HAVE to b**** about a friggin' chicken company and whether or not they hate gay people. There are SO many more time effective ways to stand up for this issue, and thus is it my opinion that you are wasting your time. I personally give to gay rights causes, support equal rights with my vote every time I cast a ballot, and teach the portion of the next generation that I'm responsible for that it doesn't matter your race, gender, nationality or sexual orientation - that everyone should be treated the same and have the same rights. You give up chicken. But I'm lazy? Whatever. As far as I'm concerned, public proclamations of boycotts are just a way of drawing attention to yourself, and serve no purpose to the cause of making real change in the world. One less chicken meal served at lunchtime, opening up a spot in line for the dude who didn't go before because the line was too long. But yes, that's just my opinion. Do whatever the hell you want.
Also... Batman, your comments on Christianity and how it should be? Dead on, so kudos on that. It's possible to believe something is a sin and yet not go around broadcasting it or trying to force others to agree with you. Same deal on legislation. I don't recall Christ ever making a trip to the Roman Senate to try and get some morality-based bills passed.
Great posts. It seems that the louder people are the more they think their comments count. Really, I think the major issue that should be discussed is the blurring of lines when it comes to separation of church and state. Leave marriage out of the public system. If you wish to get married, let someone in a colorful robe do it in whichever edifice you find appropriate and document your partnership to said sentient being as you see fit. It's a ridiculous notion that a piece of paper by the government gives people some false sense of accomplishment. Anyways, loved the way you brought this argument down to earth. I hope people can keep their blood pressure down as they rationally discuss this topic.
please do and treat yourself.. I JUST LOVE THEIR NUGGETS!! In elementry school we use to get these once a month since Chick Fila was one of the school sponsors.. STILL LOVE THEM TILL THIS DAY.. Hope you enjoy tomorrow!!
lol OH YEAH.. damn you Chick Fila. When the first one opened in San Diego it was a 45 min drive from where i lived. I tried to go once a week.. There was several times i forgot and made the drive on Sunday and got there and was like this
Can't tell you how many times I've pulled into an empty Chick-fil-a parking lot, going ,WTF?, and then remembering it is Sunday. I'd say at least 50% of the time I feel like going there, it is Sunday.
