What do you think of Sam Presti? The guy who drafted Durant, Westbrook and Harden. He drafted Carl Landry and traded him to us for cash and a future second. If I recall correctly Landry was in the training camp with the Sonics as well. Do you think he should be fired? What about Scola? He wasn't in the training camp with the Spurs but they drafted him in 2002 and couldn't figure out that he would be a quality rotation player in 5 year's time of scouting? Opting to trade him to us just to save money despite the fact that Luis Scola had TONS of recognition overseas as a great player (much more so than Lin and they still traded him for nothing)? According to your logic, the GM of Spurs and Thunder should be fired.
Look - there are no excuses, if the Rockets missed on a star player and let them walk with no compensation, and were not able to even RECOGNIZE the star talent, then what makes you believe they can recognize the next star player? I mean we have been begging for a star for a couple of years, Morey has gone on record repeatedly looking for one, and if they had one in camp, and didn't see it, then they really don't know what the hell they are doing, and should be held accountable, there are no excuses, you either can see the talent when it is on your team, or you can't. And I don't give a rats ass what people on an internet message board think of my posts or me....this is a place to post your opinions, some you can agree with some you don't have to, but we don't know each other, and probably never will. So if you think I am an ass, or make an ass of myself, I really don't care. DD
BTW for the mentally challenged, I am not saying fire Morey, I am saying if Lin turns into a star, then they should probably look to upgrade the GM position because clearly Morey couldn't see talent when it was in his own training camp. Let's see what happens, if Lin turns into just a borderline all star like Lowry, then it is not that big of a deal. Personally, I like Morey, I give him a B- but if we are stuck holding the bag on 09ers, and kept Jeff Adrien over Lin, then clearly he is not the talent evaluator that some people here think. Numbers guys lacking in interpersonal management skills (IE MOREY) in my opinion should be the 2nd guy in charge, not the GM. You don't let CFOs or COOs run your company, that is a CEO and visionaries job... DD
The Rockets acquired Landry on draft night, so he wasn't in camp with anyone but the Rockets. He signed late too.
Don't know if posted, but here's a video clip from the interview: <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/S-LqyvS0poA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
I see, my mistake. I swear I recalled a player we used to have who trained was in the Sonics training camp.
What happens if Lin becomes a star then fades away? Do you fire Morey and then hire him back? Look, Morey isn't a god or a perfect GM, but he's a good evaluator of talent. Basing his talent evaluation ability simply on missing out on Lin is just ridiculous. Morey identified Parsons, Landry, Brooks, Lowry etc. How does he not not talent when he sees it? Just because he chose Dalembert over Lin? Get real DD
Thanks. This post really shows the reasons why Lin was waived. Cutting Lin wasn't like Portland choosing Oden over Durant despite his health issues, cutting Lin was something every rational person/GM would make. Of course it would be nice if DM could have predicted Lin would cause the Knicks to become a playoff team, however its hard for people to predict how good player will be if he hasn't played an actual NBA game. CD made this mistake when he signed Cato on just one really good preseason game, and Sacramento made the exact same mistake when they traded Artest for Green just based on his 40 pt preseason game. Of course if you ask DD Morey should have bitten the bullet and paid 3.5M to Flynn just to keep a then unknown Lin.
Daryl Morey is just an average GM. He did select some talents, while let go a lot of hard work, smart players. This team is not very good at all.
I don't think Morey is a bad GM, but I also don't think you can call him a great one either. So far he's been okay/good.
Why does that matter? If Lin keeps developing and becomes an all-star (personally, I think he will based on what he's been doing the last month), that doesn't change the information we had to work with in the past. Obviously, the better he turns out, the more frustrating it is that we don't have him. But just because you're frustrated, that doesn't mean someone was at fault. Here is some wisdom from a guy who understands as well as anyone what goes into building a championship team. Maybe it will pacify you a bit: "To me, don't place blame. You give credit. The credit goes to Jeremy. A lot of things in sports are about blame. There's no blame here. It's just maybe some people didn't see what he had inside." -- Jerry West http://bayarea.sbnation.com/golden-...jerry-west-on-jeremy-lin-blame-game-linsanity
5th, new coach who's focus in training camp was naturally more on working with and familiarizing himself with the established players rather than the 14th, 15th, 16th players. And moreover, consider DD's own arguments about having too many players fighting for spots in the rotation on the same team back in January (here): Its hard to reconcile that post with the idea that Morey is a fool for not adding Lin to the roster with 3 PGs ahead of him.
Morey isn't a bad gm, he's just not the genius some people portrayed him to be. Maybe that's why he gets bashed a lot around here. He's a smart guy but even he can't control how players play.
And the streak continues! The question is neither stupid nor unanswerable. Many on this board have said that they want Morey fired. You said that if Jeremy Lin becomes an All-Star, you think he should be fired too. Other than gross misconduct, the only good reason to fire an employee is because you have reason to believe a different employee will do a better job in the same position. That's why the question is important. If you can't look around the league and find a number of examples of other GMs having equal or greater success with comparable resources, then it's pretty clear that replacing your GM will not give fix your problem. The question is 'unanswerable' in the sense that it rests on qualitative rather than quantitative judgement, but so does just about everything in basketball (and life) That's like saying there's no way to tell whether Dwight Howard is a better basketball player than Hedo Turkoglu.
No it isn't you are comparing a guys opinion about having too many like players to a GM's JOB of finding quality players. It is not my JOB to find quality, I am not in practice every day, I don't evaluate talent for a living. That is MOREY and McHale's JOB, and if Lin turns into a Star it calls into question every decision they make on player personel. Already we are saddled with all those 09ers and none of them even got a sniff of the court for the most part, why get them if you are not going to at least play them. And I thought McHale was a master motivator, how come he can't motivate an athletic 7'3" big man to play harder, or at least as hard as he did as a rookie? I am not sold on McHale, and think Morey's eye for evaluating talent is not that great either, they had PPat as the 6th rated player in the draft, REALLY? PPat is biggie smalls, he doesn't play above the rim, and doesn't play down low or rebound all that well.....he is another nice role player. I will give Morey credit for finding those, that is pretty much all he has found.....sans Kyle...for Rafer...that was a home run. DD
There's a reason no intelligent people involved with the league, like GMs and such, hold this opinion. Still trying to figure out this logic. Are you saying we didn't have Yao Ming on the roster for the last two years? Or are you talking about something other than the roster in a conversation about a GM lol?
We can argue about Morey for another 100 pages......the bottom line is that he is great at drafting and trades. It is more the coach's responsibility to figure out what to do with the player such as LIN once we have him in camp than Morey.
Anybody can read what you said and see that it contradicts your current argument. But its alright if you've changed your mind and now think the Rockets should be looking to add quality players irrespective of the makeup of the rest of the roster.
We've been playing without a superstar since the 2008 playoffs. Yao Ming wasn't a superstar the last 2 years. He was dead weight.
