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Kaman still available, price has dropped apparently

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jason3333, Mar 2, 2012.

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  1. AFS

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    I'd go Gortat, Pekovic, Kaman, Dally.
     
  2. emjohn

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    Gortat


    Asik
    Pekovic
    Dalembert
    Kaman
     
  3. FLASH21

    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

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    We would be that much better right now had the Magic not matched our offer sheet to Gortat.

    They're so stupid for trading him away for Jason Richardson and Hedo's horrible contract.

    I swear Otis Smith is confused as to why Dwight would wanna leave just take a look at exhibit A. That's a good start. Idiot.
     
  4. Kerdaboy

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    Gortat at that top of the list. Might even be attainable if nash is traded.

    then

    Pekovic
    Dalembert
    Kaman

    Kaman being the most likely be obtained. Think he overlaps a lot with scola though...his advanced stats and from watching doesn't seem to have a good impact on the defensive end.
     
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    I like the fact we could sign 2 max free agents if we didnt want to keep Gordon or Kaman....along with the 09' expirings is very interesting!! I would be pretty excited if I were GM with all that flexibilty and cap space..!

    I could see this move actually happening.....

    If you could manage to get Wallace from Portland,which i think we could, that would be ideal.

    Lowry
    Gordon
    Wallace
    PatP
    Kaman

    not a for sure super star ...YET!....but Lowry and Gordon would make a pretty good backcourt from years to come..IMHO
     
  6. OremLK

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    Gortat or Pekovic are in a different class from Kaman or Dalembert. They have a good likelihood of being all-stars next year if they can keep up this level of play. I would be thrilled to obtain either of them.
     
  7. Aruba77

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    Actually, i think you have Gortat and Pekovic in a class, then Kaman in a lower class, then Dalembert in a slightly lower class. All 3 are better than Sammy D, if for no other reason than at least they are consistant. You really never know what you're gonna get from Dalembert on any given night. And frankly, that's been his M.O. his entire career. It's why he's not still with Philly.
     
  8. FLASH21

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    Very true statement, but when was the last time Sam had a decent backup behind him to take some of the load off? Maybe Theo Ratliff in 09, or Brezec and Elson in 2010....

    I mean excluding Cousins, which only played half a season last year, has he had a decent enough center or even PF that could help him hold down the paint.

    I blame Scola and Martin for their inconsistent play on D and causing Sammy to have to over-compensate for 2 insufficient defenders rather than one here and there, plus no sure back up to come in and allow him to take a bit of a load off.

    So not entirely his fault, I would say.
     
  9. OremLK

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    Dalembert would be a fantastic backup center on a contending team.
     
  10. Deckard

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    I don't know if I would agree with that. In fact, Dalembert might be "adding a load" for Scola to carry. Not on the defensive end (although he's one reason Scola's grabbing fewer boards right now), but I wonder if Dalembert's inconsistency can have a negative impact on offensive spacing, which was important in Adelman's offense, and I assume in McHale's. And Dalembert needing a good backup? He's only playing 23 minutes a game. As has been pointed out, maybe he's better suited for a backup role.
     
  11. durvasa

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    Interestingly enough, Scola's gets 7.9 reb per 36 minutes with Dalembert on the floor, and only 6.6 reb without Dalembert on the floor.

    http://www.nba.com/statscube/player...muel-Dalembert|2449,2223;year=201112;season=r
     
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  12. coachbadlee

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    Any deal for Kaman should include X. Henry also.
     
  13. skenney1993

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    Why? He would just sit on the end of bench if we don't clear all our 09ers
     
  14. Cohete Rojo

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    I here the price on Greg Oden has dropped.
     
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    Eric Gordon would be awesomeeee but it's not happening.
     
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    This doesn't make much sense, other than to clear cap space.

    Gordon's an okay young player, but he's basically Kevin Martin. Trading Scola, Martin and a draft pick for an albeit younger version of Martin (though one with a major injury) and an expiring?

    Again, only makes sense from a salary perspective, and I wouldn't include the draft pick then.

    And NO wouldn't do it anyway.
     
  17. FLASH21

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    Just watch the next game against the Nuggets. We're lucky to be going up against a Nene-less Nuggets squad but even with Faried Scola will have trouble.

    But just pay close attention to how badly Scola is at defending even the most mediocre of forwards.

    I agree Sam would be better suited as a backup at this stage in his career but what other option is there?
     
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    That is interesting, durvasa. Not what I expected. What about offensive versus defensive rebounding? And do you have the offensive numbers for Scola when he's playing with Dalembert, as opposed to when he's not? Not asking much, am I! ;-)-

    (I could dig it up, laborously (in my inept way), but I have this picture of you sitting at a large desk with multiple displays simply filled with statistics about all things NBA!)

    Scola is struggling on defense this season, compared to what we're used to. At least I don't doubt that he is (que durvasa showing me the opposite! ;-)- ), but why? Sure, he's never been a great defender, but he's always been a solid team defender in the past. Another troubling thing with Luis is a big increase in turnovers. What's causing that? I've been assuming that part of it is bad spacing on offense due to the coaching change. Certainly, I assumed that McHale would largely keep the Adelman offense for this season, but that hasn't been the case. So I've been wondering what impact playing with Dalembert has had on Scola's offensive game, and his turnovers. Coincidence? Why does he sometimes have the 18-20/9-10 games we're used to, but not consistently? Still getting over the knee? Different system? Different players? Different rotations? A combination of things? Unlike many here, I simply don't believe that Scola's game has suddenly fallen off a cliff without a reason(s) beyond his age. Frankly, I think the age thingy is bogus. I can't tell you how many posts I've read the last few years about how Scola's game would "age well," because he didn't depend on the athleticism so many NBA players must have to be successful, and I believe it.

    So what's up? This is my favorite cat on the team, so I'm concerned. As for Dalembert being better suited as an excellent backup 5, I agree, what's another option? Maybe Morey is working to remedy that right now. That'd be nice.
     
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    how about how many boards does scola grab when he has a clean shave compared to stubble and a full beard? Since he's had the clean shave, he is been averaging 9 boards!
     
  20. jopatmc

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    Scola is struggling on defense and is more exposed because we don't have Chuck Hayes out there covering God's green 40 acres. You all that think Dally is so good defensively need to watch some video of what Chuck did for us last year. A few dunks, a few blocked shots, do not make up for all the defensive cover Chuck provided and his high post skills. Sam could only dream about being in Chuck's class defensively and offensively.

    In case you haven't figured it out yet, the exchange of Chuck and Dally was a D-O-W-N-G-R-A-D-E. And that is why we are lottery bound without a substantial trade that upgrades our interior defense and still gives us plenty of offense, in other words, unless we get a true 2-way big.

    Now, go back to watching your short 5 second video clips of poster basketball.
     

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