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Jeremy Lin

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by jbasket, Feb 8, 2012.

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  1. BleedRocketsRed

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  2. durvasa

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    DaDapoints. Way down. :)

    Seriously, if the Lowry is worse, Martin is worse, Scola is worse, Budinger isn't nearly as productive, McHale is a worse coach and doesn't know how to coach offense -- how on earth is it possible that we're still 10th in offense and not way below .500 record-wise?
     
  3. heypartner

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    I dare you to start a thread in the GARM stating Lowry is not better this year than last...and say "he peaked last year." I'm pretty sure everyone in the world but you thinks he is having his best this year.

    btw: his 3pt shooting is at 39%...his one big weakness, and he is killing it this year.

    more ppg
    same FG%
    39% 3s
    vastly better FT% 85% vs 77% on more trips to the line
    more rebounds
    more assists
    more steals
    on only 1 extra mpg

    one of the leagues best PERs for a PG.

    wow...do you honestly believe he is the same this year or worse?
     
  4. CoolColJ

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    Lin is pretty quick :eek:

     
  5. DaDakota

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    Toss ball at female ref, gets probation, argues with coach at beginning of year, constantly whining to refs....

    Sense of entitlement creeping up !!!

    I don't hate him, I dislike the illusion around here that he has improved this year.

    His overall FG% is down - though marginally, he gets to the line a lot less often, his D has been awful.

    I can't believe people can watch him on D and not see it, everyone gets by him...EVERYONE....he can't stay in front of anyone.

    Now, maybe that is because he is gassed from having to do so much on offense, I don't know...but his D has not been as consistent this year.

    I am not bothered that Kyle took anyone's spot, I am bothered that folks think he is anything more than an above average PG, and a spot that we should be looking to improve upon like every other spot.

    Kyle gets by on heart and competitiveness, which falls apart in the playoffs when more talented athletes actually care about the games.

    It tis, what it tis....the truth hurts you some times...

    DD
     
  6. heypartner

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    they should measure speed while dribbling, too. When did they get tested, btw?

    btw: how can Usain Bolt's AVG mph be faster than his top speed?:confused:
     
  7. CoolColJ

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    Probably a typo.

    they were tested at Portsmouth draft camp - ie all the teams had this data when they were drafting.... and Lin went undrafted? SMH

    Knicks tested him him in agility drills when they had him for a draft workout and his numbers were off teh charts and they still drafted Andy Rautins over him SMH
     
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    LOL at a fan of Aaron Brooks, who stewed all last year over contract issue and played subpar D, whining about some other player having a sense of entitlement and playing "aweful D"-- which "aweful D" by the way, results in the Rockets being 8 points per 100 possession better with him on the court.

    http://www.82games.com/1112/11HOU2.HTM#onoff
     
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    His overall FG% has decreased by 0.1%. But b/c he's shooting better, his TS% has gone up.

    He averaged 3.3 fta/game last season. He's averaging 4.2 fta/game this season. How is 4.2 a "lot less" than 3.3?
     
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    First of all, the "illusion" isn't simply here. Almost everyone around the league thinks Lowry is an improved player.

    His FG% is down, sure. From 42.6% to 42.5%. Totally negligible.

    And he gets to the FT line more often, not less often, plus his FT% is at 87% this year up from 77% last year. And of course his 3-point shooting is up, after you argued earlier this season that his 3-point shooting was a fluke.

    He just had a bad game, and you're clearly overreacting. Be honest, this is more about you being irked over how people criticized Brooks in the past (maybe, at times, unfairly) than it is about Lowry.
     
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    That how I feel too. I'm glad someone had the b*lls to tell it like it is. I remember in the preseason other clutch fan members posting J Lin stats and trying to make the connection for the reasoning of J Lin being on the Rockets roster. The irony of the situation every time J Lin leads the Knicks to victory by running the offense and another Novakaine 3, like you said the NY pick is pissed away. I mean sometimes from this situation I feel Morey wouldn't know talent if it d*ck slapped the stat geek in the face. Clearly Morey needed to read inbetween the numbers. And if J Lin was just kept and rotted on the bench, atleast the NY pick would have more value.
     
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    while those charts are pretty cool and he is pretty quick and comparable to Rose in terms of speed but there is one thing.. Lin cant LEAP like Rose. Lin is crafty around the rim so he can still finish but he certainly can jump over or around people like Rose can.

    sequel to White Men Cant Jump ... Yellow Men Can't Jump Too
     
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    I that is so freaking funny. It's:

    .426 last year
    .425 this year

    A complete made up falsehood. He has MADE more FT/gm this year than attempted last year. ... MADE!

    So, what other stats are down. So far you haven't mentioned one, yet.

     
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    Since when was throwing a ball at a female ref "a sense of entitlement"?

    And you need to rethink what attitude problem is. Attitude problems occur frequently, and have damaging effects on the team and performance (or their own performance). Lowry's personality and attitude has not affected the team, in fact he's the one who brings this team together. Remember the whole paintball gun fight? That was orchestrated by Lowry.

    All players get upset at coaches, I give you 100% guarantee that disagreements occur amongst all players. It's when these disagreements occur frequently that becomes problematic, Lowry has shown none of that.
    I don't even know what to say about that, no facts all talks from ass. Yes the truth hurts, that's why you try so hard to change it. Frankly, I would show you more respect if you had the balls to say you don't like Lowry instead of throwing out your obvious double standards.

    Brooks in your opinion was borderline all-star. Most folks think Kyle Lowry is better than Brooks, yet you try so hard to argue that Brooks is every bit as good as Lowry. But Lowry to you is an above average PG only.

    You like the guy, really?
     
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    There is no doubt that people will eventually see that Lowry is not as good as some think, he is getting a lot of press this year because he got better last year.

    This year, he is playing nearly the same, I would argue he has declined because his D is just not that good, he literally has trouble staying in front of the Luke Ridnours of the world these days.

    I really don't care if people disagree, fine......we disagree - eventually you all will come around, you always do.

    :)

    DD
     
  16. CoolColJ

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    Lin is a 1 legged jumper so it's hard to do that stuff in traffic, but with some space he can dunk it

    This Asian guard proves otherwise at 15 y.o :grin:

    <iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/-OEitS-vJpk?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
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    How come you won't address being called out for making complete bull**** up? His FG% is marginally down? He gets to the line less? You have no integrity, you just pull crap out of your ass on a regular basis. Go back to SpursTalk you fake Rockets fan.
     
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    i think DaDa is simply trying to imply that Lowry's improvement doesn't correlate with the praise and how much he gets overrated.
     
  19. heypartner

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    Are you just making this up now?

    So, you're trolling a Linsanity thread making up stuff to derail the thread?

    A common tactic of a troll is to spew falsehoods and not respond to people who prove them wrong.
     
  20. flamingdts

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    That makes no sense.
     

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