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I don't understand why fans are fed up with Morey attempting to improve this team.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OlajuwonFan81, Feb 29, 2012.

  1. Spooner

    Spooner Member

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    What are you talking about?:confused:

    Morey is one of the most active GM's in the league. He made a blockbuster move that was shot down this summer to balance the team. When it was vetoed we had to re-plan everything. GMs don't usually make deals the first half of the season. They almost always make deals around the deadline, so why don't you wait until the deadline before talking?
     
  2. Thefabman

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    I dont understand why anybody wouldnt want a trade, outside of lowry, ppat, lee, parsons and dmo and lull, id be on the phone trying to unload everybody lol
     
  3. jbasket

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    i feel like les alexander is holding back the "turnover" option and it is not morey's choice, whether he would or not. However, Chuck Hayes was let go because of the trade uncertainty and the veto. Hayes did not want to wait, but if the trade went through, Thabeet would of been amnestied and Hayes signed with that money.
     
  4. BigMaloe

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    you should always want to get better... i argue with my mom and brother regularly when we watch rockets games together.... i say trade martin and scola, they get mad... they are emotionally connected, and i get that... but thier not logical and dont understand the business side of the game... my mom loves scolas 'heart'... my brother is a die-hard laker hater like myself and doesnt want 'gasoft'... even myself would be pissed because i have grown attatchment to klow... but you have to constantly try and make yourself a better team... always... even the first place teams... now on the other hand i do agree with morey being way too open... he should play closer to his chest... its what hurts him in trying to lure a free agent... he needs a better pr campaign... name lowry untouchable(even if he is not)... he is our leader and best player and deserves to feel that way... martin and scola should be shown some sort of love as well...

    the truth is every gm around the league is constantly makeing phone calls to try and better their roster, no more or no less(except for the ****ty gm's down in washington and charlotte, they just are always bad)... only difference is morey is much more outspoken(not such a good thing)...

    i personally love the job moreys done...
     
  5. Patience

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    I disagree. The Rockets have a direction. That direction is toward the playoffs.
     
  6. acsorelle4

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    A lot of the same people who were pushing for the Rockets to tank were still b****ing when we only won three of our first ten games. Some people here are schizophrenic, others are just chronic complainers. That's CF.
     
  7. solid

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    Fans want to win, they love winners, they love being on top, they want to brag, they want their team to dominate, to be talked about in the national media, it makes them feel proud, it makes them feel relevant, important, and connected to something successful. Fans are unhappy when their team has a 15 year drought, rarely makes the playoffs, doesn't seem to have many up and coming young stars, keeps shuffling the players and coaches, and seems to be stuck in the middle of the pack. This isn't rocket science people.

    Now if the Rockets would put me on the payroll, I might have a different outlook. I might be willing to buy into the spin at least superficially....naw, I couldn't do it. It is what it is, I hate meaningless baloney. The game is played on the court, win or lose, and at the end of the day you are what your record says you are.
     
  8. Aleron

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    its not really morey's fault, but our owner is trying to turn us into the atlanta falcons (perpetual playoffs, never a contender)
     
  9. Aleron

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    err hawks, lol my head is all over the place today.
     
  10. rock4ever

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    I think the frustration, atleast with me, comes from Morey supporters. They seem to give Morey ALL the credit when things are looking good. But when we start losing and the team aint producing, all of sudden Morey's been dealt a bad hand and its "just wait to the trade deadline".
     
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  11. dobro1229

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    Just to let everyone know if they haven't figured it out yet.... Morey is doing exactly what every other GM that has apparently "tanked" has done. Its just that the coaching staff, and hard working young players have grinded their way into the playoff chase once again. By GM roster standards, this team should be bottom feeders. Leave the coaching rotations out of the conversation and just look at the roster.

    Ive said it once, and Ill say it again. Morey's biggest asset is also his biggest failure when it comes to aquiring a star player at least through the draft. He drafts too well. Meaning, the players he has picked up, Patterson, Brooks, Bud, Chandler, etc. are doing well enough to help this team win games, as they should, and in a sense harming the ability to truely rebuild through the Draft with the ability to aquire top 5 level talent.

    That is, however, for the Pro-Tankers to think ponder on. I for one, do not think that you can find a team in the league that is purposefully loosing games. Its just not going to happen. Players, and coaches have too much money on the line in their future to purposefully kick the ball out of bounds etc.



    So whats the "glass half full" result that can come from what Morey has on his plate??.... I say make the playoffs, and boost the value of every player on the team that contribute on the big stage.

    -Lets face it, if Reggie Miller was on bad teams for the first half of his career in Indianapolis and never made a couple big shots in the playoffs his career would look alot like.....well... Kevin Martin. Guys like Martin just need big moments in the playoffs to really set themselves apart from the "best player on a bad team" guys.

    -Look what a playoff run did for Courtney Lee in his rookie season(and he missed a point blank layup to win a game in the Finals), it sent a Then highly coveted Vince Carter to the Magic as the centerpiece coming back to New Jersey in the trade. The Nets thought enough of Lee to trade away their franchise player to aquire him, mainly because of Orlando's playoff run.

    So there you have my bright side way of looking at things. Lets just root for this team to succeed and get in the playoffs to see what kind of moves Morey can truely make. I like Morey, but he has alot of prove still in his young career. I think he's doing a good job.

    He hasn't been very lucky yet, but like I tell my employees I work with, Its not about luck, its about putting yourself in as many situations as you possibly can to get lucky. Thats is what makes you successful at what you do.

    Morey is putting the team in many different situations as possible to get lucky. The time will be here sooner than later.
     
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  12. kyle_R

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    Keeping Scola, Lowry, and Martin after their good (and great) second halves of last season = tanking philosophy this year? We signed a center, that = tanking philosophy? You think having arguably a top 5 or 6 PG, a 20 ppg scorer, signing a center who can both block shots and get rebounds, while keeping some of the best backups in the league (Lee, Dragic) all of that to you means our team should be bottom feeders? Almost every post I make on this subject or the individual players has been on the negative side, especially Lowry. But to say this team is over achieving its way to the playoffs is simply r****ded.
     
  13. W22_STREAK

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    this is a business. he either gets you, the stakeholder/shareholder results, or he gets fired. he hasn't gotten any results. i love morey, but he needs to do something to this team right now. if his biggest accomplishments are the 14th pick steal he grabs this year again, the knicks might have won the championship already before this team wins another playoff series.
     
  14. 45souf

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    Until we land a "Superstar", everybody we treat Morey as not doing enough. Take it as a Damn if you do, damn if you don't. If we do land someone, People will say" Bout Time", if we don't land one, They will say if Isn't trying hard enough
     
  15. trueroxfan

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    Cuz we can do better, duh. Some scrub from MIT doesn't know basketball like these people do. They watch it, sometimes, sometimes, they even play it.
     
  16. dobro1229

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    Newsflash... Martin and Scola were traded in December and I can guaranty That they will be moved at some point in the near future. Dalembert was signed to help out, but ultimately is a trade asset going into this summer.

    "r****ded"..... Really.... You are the one whose r****ded if you don't think this team is overachieving. I'm obviously not going to get anywhere with someone like you that makes boneheaded comments like that but I'm sure you will still find something to rebuddle back at me. Let me guess "trading for Gasol isn't rebuild
     
  17. dobro1229

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    Newsflash... Martin and Scola were traded in December and I can guaranty That they will be moved at some point in the near future. Dalembert was signed to help out, but ultimately is a trade asset going into this summer.

    "r****ded"..... Really.... You are the one whose r****ded if you don't think this team is overachieving. I'm obviously not going to get anywhere with someone like you that makes boneheaded comments like that but I'm sure you will still find something to rebuddle back at me. Let me guess "trading for Gasol isn't rebuilding." Stupidity is predictable.
     
  18. Rockets Jones

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    Morey doesn't care about players, in 2008 we went on that streak because we were a team: people loved the defense and the identity of Deke, Hayes, Battier, Rafer together. Yao was our #1 and we had the rookies everybody started to fall in love with. In two years that changed with Morey trading everyone he likes and fails to be honest about it. He still hasn't been able to pull off a big deal.

    Trading for Martin was a good deal but how can you bring in a guy, get rid of the coach he thrives under and try to trade him for a softie who doesn't want to come here ? For a statistics guy and world class nerd he sure is stupid when it comes to dealing with social human beings.

    Truth is, if it weren't for Leslie we wouldn't have Dalembert right now meaning Hill would be our starting C. Morey also didn't sign Mutombo in 2009 if it weren't for Yao & Tracy.

    The guy hasn't proven anything so that's why I'm fed up with him, he can't pull off anything and is all talk. Also the guys he tries to get are not that great and he wants to give up our whole team for them: Amare in 2010, last year Melo, Nene & this year Pau. Three p*****s who do not play defense.

    The only good players he's pursued are Gerald Wallace, Tyson Chandler & Kaman. Even Calvin Murphy said Pau is not the answer.
     
  19. IhateStern

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    I like him...
     
  20. OlajuwonFan81

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    So you would rather have had guys like Kaman over Pau gasol or Nene ? You think that Chandler is worth over 60 million ? You my friend make absolutely no sense.
     

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