Good to have things cleared up. Lakers are not going to be relevant this year, at least not most relevant Their FO is in disarray, system change has to 'sink in'. Mike Brown is solid but no game changer, didn't prove he could win it all in Cleveland. Their problem is they have superstars and stars in abundance, namely 3... sort of but no real good role players that can step up on given nights. Huge drop off in terms of talent level outside of the Big 3.
According to Jonathan Feigen: Which is mostly likely to happen? Dwight Howard to the Lakers for Bynum or Pau Gasol to Houston in exchange for Scola and Martin? 1:06 Jonathan Feigen: Tough one since I don't think either is likely to happen. Dwight does not seem interested in being Kobe's Robin. The Rockets and Lakers have not had a single discussion about Pau since mid December. Remember, when they were willing to give up Scola, Martin and Dragic for Pau they were also planning on adding Nene. That's not possible now. Also, the Lakers are looking for a potential star, not a better backup for Kobe. http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/02/live-chat-with-jonathan-feigen-at-1-p-m/
Well that pretty much sums that up. So lets stop with all the Gasol to Houston crap. It likely will not happen. I'd rather us go all out for Dwight Howard and build around him. We have a lot of pieces to give Orlando and they probably like some of our "assets". I would just hope Morey can convince Howard to stay here long term. We do not have a state tax so maybe that will be something Howard likes since he is already in the same situation in Orlando...
Only a few guys on this overall list are clearly better than Pau. The bolded ones are definitely worse and it's laughable that you think they are better.
You haven't been here a few weeks before the trading deadline before, have you? We haven't even started. I know I'll be pulling my hair out for the next two weeks.
If Morey deals Lowry for Gasol I will lose the last bit of faith I have left in him. Dealing Lowry to the Lakers only makes sense for the lakers like really, why give them a young up and coming allstar for an aging declining one? Lowry is the gem we found, the lakers have been a powerhouse for a while now and we're going to just hand them Lowry to kickstart another legacy? C'mon now it seems like every time the lakers are about to look like a bottom tier team the NBA (stern) forces a team to just hand them a superstar. I.E the man we're supposedly going after back in his prime. Let the lakers idiotic fans suffer a rough patch and see how loyal they really are. These trade rumors are stupid. Nearly as stupid as the trade itself.
It's nothing more than speculation by sportswriters. Morey would only trade him for someone like Deron. Most Laker fans are Clipper fans by now anyway.
I am not on the Morey bandwagon, but I am in the same boat as you. Lowry shouldn't be included for any trade, unless it's for D-Will, Dwight or a big name. Pau is good--don't get me wrong--but he's not worth everything that Morey keeps throwing in for a trade.
There is no evidence that Morey is considering trading Lowry in a Gasol deal. There is very little evidence that Pau Gasol is "declining". There is no evidence that Kyle Lowry is a superstar, as implied. Carry on.
According to Jonathan Feigen: Which is mostly likely to happen? Dwight Howard to the Lakers for Bynum or Pau Gasol to Houston in exchange for Scola and Martin? http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/02/live-chat-with-jonathan-feigen-at-1-p-m/
No two circumstances are ever identical. The debate at hand is whether or not an NBA player's career is abbreviated and moves towards rapid decline when he turns 31 years old. That has practically nothing to do with whether or not Gasol and Garnett should be considered equals in terms of on the court performance. What can be said is that Garnett has given very little indication that his performance alone, separate and apart from Gasol's or anyone else's, has radically declined since he turned 31. That's a matter of opinion not a matter of fact. All I can say to someone who reaches that conclusion is, SCOREBOARD DUDE! Whatever you say. I love how easy it is for homeristic Rocket fans to be dissing Pau's career while he's a Laker, who will then turn around and start talking out of the other side of their mouth if he's a Rocket in the next couple of weeks. Is it really that hard to just give credit where credit is due? After all it's the Rockets that have been pressing to make a trade for Gasol since before the season started. Not the other way around. You people do an awful lot of bad mouthing of a guy the Rockets seem to want to add in the worst way. I guess it just becomes no fun when you find out you can't have him as part of some sort of yard sale.
Some truth in that I suppose, although the talent level once you got past Odom has been suspect since before the team started reaching finals and winning championships the past 5 years. They've never had a strong bench during those years. As far as the FO goes, the behind the scenes struggle to influence the team between Phil and the younger Buss sons festered for years. It never reach a crisis point and there is no real evidence to support the conclusion that it has reached that point now. Kupchak is still the GM. The overarching question is, how much improvement would be seen if the Lakers were to add an average point guard like Ramon Sessions or Jose Calderon or even Goran Dragic at this point, all of which could be accomplished simply by extending one of the two first round draft picks and not involving Gasol at all. There is probably a better chance of that happening than anything else.
Oh yea, I have been lurking this site for a good 8-9 years but finally signed up back in 2010. I never really posted much, I just read other peoples opinions and etc. I know this is going to be non stop, new thread about the same thing, over and over and over lol. I do agree with you though, I will be pulling my hair out and biting my nails as well. Something has got to happen and the thing is, non of us will even know until it is done. That is how Morey rolls.
Why do you have to badmouth Gasol before you're satisfied that trading Lowry for him is the wrong thing to do. Don't you realize that it's the Rockets who started all of this in the first place with their heavy pursuit out of need for Gasol's services? It's not the Lakers who were applying pressure on the Rockets to trade Lowry. The Lakers wanted Chris Paul. Remember? Rocket fans loved the idea of acquiring Gasol until word spread that the asking price was going to include Lowry.
I wonder if there's anyway we could pull off Scola + Dragic some filler for Gasol... Guess it depends how desperate the Fakers are for a PG and to clean out Gasol, heh. Scola's contract probably makes that an impossibility, though. Lowry, Parsons, Martin, Gasol, Dalembert is a pretty damn nice starting lineup, though...
