Young Christian pastor sentenced to death for apostasy from Islam in Iran

The most pure demonstrators of Islamic principles, THE IRANIAN GOVERNMENT, has spoken. How can Muslims even argue with that? Clearly this is an Islamic problem.

It's obvious that the judge has been reading the Quran and enacting the very same passages that were part of the blog posted in the ATW thread. After all, he is Iranian and doesn't speak Arabic, so he will be able to follow orders and do God's will exactly as prescribed by the text.

WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE TOWARDS THESE TYPES OF ACTIONS???

 

Outrage, have you been to Iran and all the other middle eastern countires that hate their government, the people here from there who Love their countries, btu htate their governemnt. You have to realize hte separation fo the people and the people, not only how powerless but how oppressed they are.

 

I'm from UAE/Turkey/Iran and live in the Middle East. Believe me I know what you are talking about.

As a word of advice from my own personal experience, the opinions of immigrants of a country rarely reflect the current opinions of the people of their country of origin. If you think about it, it makes sense. People who immigrate have lower uncertainty avoidance, younger, unsettled, unorthodox, etc. They have unique characteristics, and since this is a matter of opinion, it's best to make sure you see the opinion of the diversied group rather than a biased sub-group. In this case, I would even say the opinion of the residents is more important than the immigrants.

 

Very well put.

 

Given what you've said here: is the problem with Islam or Muslims or legislators?

Example:

Even in Germany, Islamic Law still says to kill apostates, and German law forbids it. It's a miracle, death for apostasy being a part of Islamic law doesn't matter anymore because German law does not recognize it. #that****cray

Shall we keep blaming the Muslims for being of the OPINION that "apostates" should be killed? No, you've been such an ardent supporter of not having a right to be offended by free speech. If they are making illegal death threats, then get them. We don't put Geert Wilders or Thilo Sarrazin on trial for the murder of those innocent people in Oslo, even though their hate-filled rhetoric would have identically influenced the murderer, who was trying to re-establish a Christian "caliphate" of sorts with his interpretation of "Christian sharia" in collaboration with other religious extremists around Europe.

One human intentionally murdering another human is the same no matter how you look at it, no matter the motivation, the religion, etc. But there is always a group of people who still care to discuss the religion of the month even when it is irrelevant to justice anymore and is based on a book whose author does not scientifically exist as far as we are aware.

I'd love to hear you're opinion. You've worked so hard to establish Islam as at least an accomplice in this case. You've completely neglected the possible oppresssion and political force which keeps these rules from being changed. Do you think there is a multi-billionaire self-certified 'Islamic' leader somewhere sitting on a throne with an ipad and a virgin cocktail deciding whether to behead apostates last century style?

No. There are real reasons that these changes don't take place and you have ignored them, and more importantly they are directly relevant (and opposed) to what you are puporting in this thread.