[Local] Conservative Talk Radio Host Michael Berry Involved in Hit & Run at Gay Bar

I still don't think, nor have I seen any evidence, that Berry has taken any anti-gay stances before.

So, if he went into a gay bar, or is gay, I really don't see the story there in terms of him being a hypocrite. There is a slight story in a political personality (especially one with a conservative following) being outed, but it does not reflect poorly on Berry at all. Rather, it reflects on his audience.

You don't need an excuse/reason to go into a bar. I don't care if you're gay, it's nothing to be ashamed of, embarrassed about, or apologize for.

But the hit and run thing, total asshat move. Especially if he was intoxicated.

 

Has it been determined there was a hit and run? I thought they were getting paint samples or something. Is the assumption he did it or is there more concrete evidence?

 

His wife could potentially disagree with that.

 

I don't think being closeted makes you a hypocrite.

It makes you sympathetic.

But that's for he and his wife to settle (if so), doesn't change my opinion of him at all.

 

That's between his wife and him, really. Maybe they have an understanding.

 

He hasn't (that I know of). He's a complete tool like most talk radio hosts, but there is no evidence of him being anti-gay. I guess people just assume that, since he's conservative.

Just to play devil's advocate here, I find it pretty fishy that the media seems to think the fact that he was at a gay bar is more important that the hit-and-run. Is it funny that he was there? Of course. But leave the innuendo to us bbs posters, not what's supposed to be the serious media.

They took paint samples from his car yesterday. If they match, he's a LIAR. If they don't, then all of this was clearly just a weak attempt to humiliate him. Should be interesting either way...

 

Your first mistake, sir.

 

Looks pretty applicable.

 

anita perry faints.

 

I agree with you, Don

Which is why I posted the "Confirmed listing of hypocrites" earlier in this thread.

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=6641288&postcount=177

1. Rocketman Tex

2. Reeko_HTown

3. Big Sherv

4. rhadamanthus

5. jo mama

6. Groogrux

7. Hombredehierro

 

I said supposed to be.

 

How does being closeted pertain to virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc? Maybe he's not gay but bi? Maybe it's none of your business which? Unless he's spoken out against it I don't see the hypocrisy.

 

I'm not sure I'd classify your sexual preferences as "virtues, moral or religious beliefs, or principles", but whatever.

And even then, we don't know the circumstances behind the situation, and even under the *worst* circumstances, a man who spent his entire life in the closet, married and had kids, is not automatically some kind of raging malicious butthole worthy of public scorn. I'll save my ire for something or someone a little more worthy of it.

But hey, if you want to score points by focusing on him possibly misleading his wife (and himself), you go right ahead. Not prepared to follow you down that dark, dark road though. I think somebody in that situation has probably suffered enough.

 

You're the one who's making a big deal about whether or not a hypocrisy label can be applied - it can be in any reasonable definition of the word. It's a broad term. Who cares?

That doesn't change the fact that it seem to apply in this case, especiallly when you consider things like marriage vows (I know, mixing in religion and monogamy in a DonnyMost thread is like feeding alka-selzer to seagulls).

The guy lived a double life, drag queen enthusiast by night, outspoken redblooded tea party patriot/nuclear family man by day. That's close enough to give him THE DREADED SCARLET H by any reasonable definition. Again, I ask why you care? I think you're actually a hypocritical with respect to your abhorrence for hypocrisy.

 

I've noticed a pattern of you stretching the truth and trying to apply "the absurd" to make a point. It is a weak form of argument that I can see right through. I do not respect this approach.

 

Scared to admit it but I have to agree here.
SamFisher, where are you getting all the "guy lived a double life, drag queen enthusiast by night, outspoken redblooded tea party patriot/nuclear family man by day." stuff? Marriage vows? Now you also have proof he cheated on his wife?

 

I think the big disconnect here happened because I was speaking to his political views about gay people, etc. (as was pretty much everybody else in this thread). You spoke directly to his relationship with his wife being "hypocritical". Which, you're right, I really don't care about. I was talking about his professional credibility, which seems to be what people are questioning. After all, if you're running around bashing gays and it turns out you are one, it stands to reason people wouldn't take you quite as seriously anymore. If that's not what you were speaking towards, then my mistake.

I disagree that hypocrisy applies here for the reasons stated in my last post, and I don't think marriage vows can be factored in here since we don't 1) know what they were and 2) don't know the circumstances behind their relationship. Nor do I think we should really interject our assumptions into their marriage. That seems like a waste of time.

I don't buy that. Did Berry ever speak out against gays, alternative lifestyles, "non-traditional" families, etc? Just because you're conservative doesn't mean you automatically agree with everything some other bigots who consider themselves conservative think. That's silly lumping/guilt by association logic that I certainly wouldn't want applied to me in my support of Obama or other liberals. If you want to play it that way, then everybody is a hypocrite. (This is where you've now transitioned from his relationship with his wife, to his professional credibility, so... we've come full circle)

Where'd the drag queen thing come from, btw? Did I miss a different Berry scandal? Honest question.

Edit: I can think of one reason I care about people bashing Berry as a hypocrite with regards to his relationship with his wife/family, etc. Is that railing on somebody who just came out of the closet for their hypocrisy (if it can even be considered that), is like rubbing salt in fresh wounds. It may cause them further mental stress, or discourage others from coming out, and that would be a damned shame. So, yeah. That's why it kinda matters to me/bothers me.*

*Unless if this person was an out-and-out bigot who railed against everything they were shown to be a part of.

 

Hypocrite? You don't even know the meaning of the word!

 

Apparently, there was a drag show the night Berry went in to have a beer. I've been to it many times and it's FABULOUS!!!


EDIT: Clutch, please delete the last sentence in the post above. ASAP. Thanks.

 

Story just keeps getting weirder.

I heard Berry on the radio for the first time yesterday, and after seeing his picture, I never would've matched his voice to that little howdy-doody face.