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Drill Baby, Drill: if only we had

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Feb 22, 2012.

  1. basso

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    Ten Years Ago . . .
    By Jim Geraghty
    February 21, 2012 7:00 A.M. Comments2
    “If drilling [in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge] were approved today, it would be ten years before oil arrived in refineries.” — Sierra Magazine, January-February issue, 2002.

    “Oil extracted from the Wildlife Refuge would not reach refineries for seven to ten years and would never satisfy more than two percent of our nation’s oil demands at any one time.” — Senator Maria Cantwell (D., Wash.), April 17, 2002.

    “It would take years and years of development” to generate any supply. — Vice President Al Gore, September 30, 2000. He preferred releasing oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve instead.

    The Bush plan to drill in ANWR offers “no real action to bring oil prices down now, no real prospect of freeing ourselves from dependence on big oil and foreign oil.” — Al Gore, Sept. 30, 2000.

    UPDATE: A little more recently . . . “We could start drilling in ANWR today, and at its peak, which would be more than a decade from now, it would give us enough oil to take care of our transportation needs for about a month.” — Senator Barack Obama, February 28, 2006.

    Of course, this country uses an enormous amount of oil in a month, so that adds up to 600 million barrels. And it will not surprise you that Obama’s estimate is on the low side; a U.S. Geological Survey study put the amount at “5.7 billion to 16 billion barrels of oil” — so about 10 to 26 months of oil. And in Obama’s strange future vision, America would simply not use any other source of oil from anywhere in the United States, Canada, offshore, or abroad. Of course, the presence of the ANWR supply, along with all of the other potential supplies — shale, fracking, and offshore drilling on the Gulf border with Mexico! — would A) ensure more supply, B) bring down the cost, and C) bring down transportation costs, as opposed to having it brought across oceans by tankers from Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, Nigeria, etc.
     
  2. basso

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    every time you fill up the tank between now and November, you'll know who to thank.
     
  3. mc mark

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    This guy?

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  4. thegary

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    i am for high gas prices
     
  5. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    My car gets 29 mpg highway so I don't worry to much.
     
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    Likewise. Let's inject some reality into the American consumerist lifestyle for a change.
     
  8. DonnyMost

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    It's pretty obvious that the only thing that is going to make us responsible consumers and innovative thinkers is to have fossil fuels that are cost prohibitive.
     
  9. basso

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    especially if one works in the oil business
     
  11. ROXRAN

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    Pretty good article basso. "the solar panels in the trash" part- ouch
     
  12. Dubious

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    It's these cans. Obama hates these cans!

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    Not really, after a certain point substitutes and alternative fuels become cost-competitive. OPEC will increase production if prices go any higher. They'll get shortchanged if they just let things grow.

    That said I'm all for high gas prices. Politicians don't have the foresight to plan for this stuff so might as well let it happen and force us to change.
     
  14. gifford1967

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    Very funny.
     
  15. basso

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    for us to change to what?
     
  16. Bandwagoner

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    Interesting perspective from two guys that can easily afford higher prices, amirite?


    Let them eat cake.
     
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  17. Dubious

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    We could have gotten serious in 1977 when Jimmy Carter said energy policy was the moral equivalent of war.

    If only we had.
     
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    long-term sacrifice for very short-term gain.

    But future generations don't NEED nature, amirite.

    (it always amuses me how people who claim to be "fiscally responsible" can be so irresponsible with their long-term perspective vs their short-term gain.)
     
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    Hard to say, honestly. I don't drive much. Because it's expensive.
     
  20. basso

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    how can people be so heartless, how can people be so cruel? especially people who (say they) care about social injustice.
     

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