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Jeremy's Ancestry

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by daywalker02, Feb 16, 2012.

  1. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Huh??????:confused:
     
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  3. heartofachamp34

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    Care to tell me why? Have you lived in China? Have you been to the Western provinces, or did you spend most of your time in posh Shanghai or HK? Do you know what % of the total population lives in each of those 2 worlds?
     
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    Bah img fail.
     
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    I'm just going to leave this link here...

    /thread.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/16/s...html?_r=1&pagewanted=all?src=tp&smid=fb-share

     
  6. apollo33

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    Oh yeah? Why don't you give us a percentage of people in those provinces that work for in"30 USD sweatshops".
     
  7. heartofachamp34

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    Why don't you do some research and look up any of the myriad of articles online about China's severe income gap? Now I have to do the work for you? From wiki:

    Migrant workers in China are mostly people from impoverished regions who go to more urban and prosperous coastal regions in search of work, hence they are the main force for urbanization in the People's Republic of China. According to Chinese government statistics, the current number of migrant workers in China is estimated at 120 million, approximately 9% of the population. China's urban migrants sent home the equivalent of US$65.4 billion in 2005.[2]

    China is now experiencing the largest mass migration of people from the countryside to the city in history. An estimated 230 million Chinese (2010) — a number equivalent to two thirds the population of the United States — have left the countryside and migrated to the cities in recent years. About 13 million new people join the legions every year. The number is expected to reach 250 million by 2012 and surpass 300 million and maybe reach 400 million by 2025.

    Many are farmers and farm workers made obsolete by modern farming practices and factory workers who have been laid off from inefficient state-run factories. They include men and women and couples with children. Men often get construction jobs while women work in cheap-labor factories. Most come from Sichuan, Hunan, Henan, Anhui and Jiangxi Provinces. A 60- year-old grandmother from Sichuan who was as laborer on a construction site in Shanghai told the Los Angeles Times, "If you're willing to work, you can get a job here even if you're old."

    So many migrants leave their homes looking for work they overburden the rail system. In the Hunan province, 52 people were trampled to death in the late 1990s when 10,000 migrants were herded onto a freight train. To stem the flow of migrants, officials in Hunan and Sichuan have placed restrictions on the use of trains and buses by rural people.

    Most migrant workers have traditionally gone to Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen and the coastal cities but more are heading to the interior where new opportunities are opening up and there is less competition. In some cities, the migrants almost outnumber the residents. The small industrial city of Yiwu, for example, in Zhejiang Province, is home to 640,000 official residents and a migrant population of several hundred thousand.

    The booming cities are desperate for cheap labor while the countryside is experiencing labor surpluses. The cities provide so much work they are sometimes called "factories without chimneys."

    The migration is all the more extraordinary when one considers that the government has tried to restrict it. One young girl told National Geographic, "All the young people leave our village. I'm not going back. Many can't even afford a bus ticket and hitchhike to Beijing."

    Overall, the Chinese government has tacitly supported migration as means of providing labor for factories and construction sites and for the long term goals of transforming China from a rural-based economy to an urban-based one. Some inland cities have started providing migrants with social security, including pensions and other insurance.

    It makes these Occupy idiots and their 99% look like child's play.
     
  8. apollo33

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    I still don't see these millions of sweatshops Jeremy Lin is suppose to work at that only pays 30 dollars a month.

    The urban migration is only a natural process because of over population in the rural areas.

    And Jeremy Lin's ancestors came from none of those inner rural provinces which are populated by mostly farmers.

    How were you making that assumption that Jeremy Lin will be working at a sweatshop again?
     
  9. flamingdts

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    LOL "From wiki".

    If you want to use statistics for argument, you don't use wiki, you use the actual article source.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/internat...anks-near-bottom-on-income-inequality/245315/

     
  10. heartofachamp34

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    What, you think these millions of migrants are all getting $8.25/hr?

    Fine, he's not a migrant factory worker. Let's say he's your average salaryman.
    GDP per capita of Fujian (his ancestral homeland) province - $5913. Less than $500/mth.

    Unless you think he'd be one of these super rich real estate moguls cruising around in Rolls-Royces. That's like.. .00001% of the population (that's called an exaggeration. Go look up the real numbers for yourself if you want to be anal about it)
     
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    You really are an idiot.

    US's income inequality is worse than China, that means there is a higher chance that Lin's family will work in a craphole in the US than in China. Don't forget the racial barriers as well that Lin and his family will have to overcome.
     
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    Can someone lock this thread please? There are plenty of message boards in Chinese to talk about ideology and politics.
     
  14. heartofachamp34

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    Wow. Way to completely miss the point.

    NOW the inequality is worse. What was the situation when Lin's family first left China and then to Taiwan and then to the US? His parents got their education in Taiwan, then came here with at least Bachelor's degrees. They were likely educated in the 60s and 70s. What would their education have been like in that same period if they stayed in China?

    Seriously, go back and read my posts. I've never said Lin's parents came to the US as poor laborers. I'm saying they were able to get a good education and come here because they escaped to Taiwan.

    Now my factory worker statement was before I knew his family was from Fujian. That's why I gave the if-then statements. If his family was from the interior, Lin would most likely be a migrant worker or at best lower-middle class. If they were from the East coast (which it turns out they were), HE (not his parents) could get a decent education and job as those areas were the earliest to experience economic reform.
     

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