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Jeremy's Ancestry

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by daywalker02, Feb 16, 2012.

  1. Carl Herrera

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    The Japanese settlers were a small fraction compare to the native population and they, along with their Taiwan-born offspring, returned to Japan after 1945 with few exceptions. The predominant majority of Taiwan's population at any point after 1945 are ethnic Chinese, most of whom settled in Taiwan in before the 20th century.

    Here is wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan

    Population 98% Han Chinese. 2% Taiwanese aborigine.

    As I said, his other grandparents likely passed away.
     
  2. pirc1

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    Why do people have to fight over this? Seems silly.
     
  3. heypartner

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    Yeah, I was just kidding....trolling actually, because argument between China/Taiwan ancestry is boring to me . No way a Japanese family and a Chinese/Taiwan family would have mixed...that would have been Soap Opera worthy.
     
  4. heypartner

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    You shouldn't have bothered. Did you actually believe it was necessary to prove a Japanese family and a Chinese family did not mix during the Japanese occupation of Taiwan. haha. I was just trolling.
     
  5. Carl Herrera

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    Some did, few. And they likely moved to Japan after WW2.
     
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  7. sinobball

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    Actually there were a lot. But it's crazy where this discussion is going.
     
  8. daywalker02

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    This has to happen. sigh
    They are just starting to embrace him as their hero. The not so good part is that sports does not unite them in this case, it separates them times again, each one try to grab a piece of the pie.
     
  9. heartofachamp34

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    Orly?

    HTC
    Asus/Acer
    TSMC
    Founders of Yahoo! and Youtube

    What exactly has China produced? Haier? Lenovo?? A huge blackmarket of counterfeit goods (fake Nike shoes, Gucci and LV handbags, Hollywood movies)? ROFLMAO.
     
  10. heartofachamp34

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    For the record, I don't think either Taiwan or China should claim Lin. He was raised in the US, was educated here, developed his basketball skills here. Therefore he's American.

    His parents were raised and educated and entered society in Taiwan, so yes, they would be Taiwanese-Chinese (assuming their parents fled to Taiwan during the Civil War like most)

    The point is Taiwan and China may be the same ethnicity, but clearly, to very different societies with drastically opposed cultural standards. One is a free open society that promotes individual achievement and expression, the other kills and jails thousands daily in Tibet, Xinjiang, and Tian An Men to silence any dissent to an autocratic one-party rule, and censors large portions of media (books, TV, internet). Jeremy Lin would probably be working in a sweatshop making 30 USD a month if his grandparents did not escape to Taiwan, thereby allowing his parents to come to the US.
     
  11. heypartner

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    Sounds like you're trying to make a political statement.

    and you are apparently making an assumption in your bolded point above:

    Originally Posted by sinobball
    Jeremy's paternal grandmother still lives in Beidou, Changhua, Taiwan. She's Taiwanese born and raised.
     
  12. WinorLoseMate

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    Really? Working in sweatshops for 30 USD a month?? I think mass media has influenced you greatly.. are you Taiwanese by any chance and this is what they tell you happens?

    I'm a first generation Australian but both my parents were born in China and they both had well paying jobs. I've also lived in China and I have NEVER seen a sweat shop. Sure they may exist but they aren't prominent. I just had to clear the air because I thought your point of view was a bit narrow minded and offensive.

    Anyways I don't care much for claiming where Jeremy Lin is from, but one thing does annoy me: Why do people care where he's from? It just clearly shows racial barriers still exist and we are far far away from breaking them down if ever.
     
  13. heartofachamp34

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    and you are apparently making an assumption in your bolded point above:

    Originally Posted by sinobball
    Jeremy's paternal grandmother still lives in Beidou, Changhua, Taiwan. She's Taiwanese born and raised.

    And that disproves my point how? Apparently you missed the part where I said "(assuming their [Jeremy's grandparents] parents fled to Taiwan during the Civil War like most)". So one of them did, the other 3 were native Taiwanese (been there since many generations, even if they originally crossed the strait say, during the Qing Dynasty or something).

    "Sounds like you're trying to make a political statement."

    I'm making a socio-economic statement, which is directly related to politics. Under the Communist regime in China, his grandparents would never have been able to give Jeremy's parents a college education as engineers, much less allow them to immigrate to the US. That's assuming they survive the purging of intellectuals and the Great Chinese Famine under Mao. So yes, Jeremy Lin's life story could not have happened if that were so.
     
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    Then frankly, you and your parents were one of the lucky ones, most likely leaving in Shanghai/Beijing/Pearl Bay Delta. Your story is the minority of Mainland Chinese; I'd say its far more likely Jeremy's story turns out differently, and for the worse.
     
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    Ever heard of NFL player Ed Wang? He's about the same age as Lin. Both his parents immigrated from China to the US a few years after Lin's parents immigrated from Taiwan; and they also graduated from American universities. Care to explain since you're such an expert on China?
     
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    Excellent, why don't you also tell us where Jeremy Lin would be working in Taiwan, had his parents not come to the US.
     
  17. flamingdts

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    LOL.

    You are an idiot.
     
  18. delta69er

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    China and Taiwan-same language, same people, same ancestries,different politics.
     
  19. Don FakeFan

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    I do not see how Lin is an American. Americans will not treat Lin or any Asian as American.
     
  20. heartofachamp34

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    Did I say it could never happen? I'm saying as a % of the total population, the chances of that happening is far smaller. Yes, since the 90's there are many more Mainlanders coming to the US and other Western countries for their education or careers. This is due to the economic reforms starting in the late 70s/early 80s. Prior to that, the chances of leaving China to come to the West were vanishingly small (trust me, I've heard the sordid stories of marriages of convenience with Westerners).

    Probably graduated college and getting a top tier white collar job (given he's smart enough to get into Harvard) or continuing to get a Masters/PhD? Even if he doesn't go to college and is making minimum wage, that's still a far higher standard of living than minimum wage in the Mainland. Now would he be doing that in China? Again, that depends if he is born on the wealthy East coast, or in the poor interior hinterlands (the majority of China's population).
     

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