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Pennsylvania Middle School Bans Boots

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Hightop, Feb 15, 2012.

  1. Hightop

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    Government schools are prisons.

    ABC News

    http://news.yahoo.com/pennsylvania-middle-school-bans-boots-211312705--abc-news.html


    A ban on "open top" boots at Pottsdown Middle School in Pennsylvania is not a protest against fashion.

    In a letter sent home to parents from principal Gail Cooper Wednesday, "open top boots" are banned in classrooms starting next Monday because students have been bringing in contraband items in their boots.

    "Following several problems with these items, I have banned the outdoor, open top boots from our classrooms," the letter stated. Under this rule, the ban would include the popular Uggs. "Students may continue to wear outdoor boots to and from school to protect them from cold, snow and ice but need to change into a pair of sneakers or shoes before entering homeroom."

    Students have been mainly hiding cell phones in their boots, John Armato, director of community relations for the Pottstown School District, told ABC News. The possession of personal electronic devices in school, including cell phones, is not permitted. Students must keep their devices in their lockers between 7:55 a.m. and 2:30 p.m. If a student decides to text or a phone goes off, these types of events are causing disruption to a positive education atmosphere, Armato said.

    "It is a ruling that is made to address a particular situation," Armato said. "If the problem goes away, there is no need for the rule."

    The reactions Armato has received have ranged from support for maintaining an educational environment to accusations that the ban infringes upon students' rights to wear certain fashions. He said the ban could change and has been instated on a "as need basis."

    The school district does have a mandatory uniform for the middle school students. The school handbook devotes a section to proper attire that states shoes, boots and sneakers with matching-colored laces are permitted. It also says if clothing disrupts learning, the administration has the right to set rules about questionable attire.

    If a student does not comply, discipline can range from a reminder sent home to parents on the first offense to possible detention or suspensions at the principal's discretion for repeated offenses.
     
  2. Rocketman95

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    Enjoy these last few posts...Obama's men are coming for you!
     
  3. DonnyMost

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    They had a problem and they fixed it, sounds good to me.
     
  4. Oski2005

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    Wow, so now you are losing your sh** over a school dress code? Where was this anger when they banned boys from wearing earrings?

    What about public school uniforms?
     
  5. CCorn

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    I don't think we could wear boots at my intermediate. We had a pretty strict dress code, even though it was a public school. Too much teasing had been going on towards kids with less money.
     
  6. Rashmon

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    You know, highcrop, some schools even require...uniforms...just like real prisons.

    Have you ever been outside before?
     
  7. jo mama

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    if you read the article there is a sound reason for the ban. personally, i would have simply required that kids actually lace up their boots properly so they cant stash their phones or whatever in there, but as long as someone is banning those hideous 'ug' boots im cool with it. we couldnt wear shorts at my school till my senior year and earrings were never allowed. i know some schools had hair length requirements too and some of those were ridiculous...i have a friend who grew up in ft. worth and his school didnt allow dudes hair to go below their shirt collar.

    could you imagine them trying to ban boots in texas though?
     
  8. mc mark

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    Boy! Between Texxx's race baiting threads and Hightop's outrage of the day, the D&D just keeps winning!

    :(
     
  9. rockbox

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    Its cold in Pennsylvania and they are banning warm boots. WTF.
     
  10. DFWRocket

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    Schools have the right to enforce codes. As soon as you enter their property, you are subject to their rules. If you don't like it, go to a private school..although most have them have rules that are more strict.

    Another thing, while I disagree with the OP's assesment and opinion on this matter, I hardly see a reason to attack him in this thread.
     
  11. Htownhero

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    If. Not allowing boots makes "government" schools a prison, what does not allowing leg warmers make charter schools? A gulag labor camp?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/02/b...ng-a-little-style-slip-in.html?pagewanted=all

    Sometimes, even with looser dress codes, students rebel anyway. Briarmeadow Charter School in Houston relaxed its dress code this year to allow leggings — and Andie Alexander, in eighth grade, has already gotten into trouble over it.
     
  12. SamFisher

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    I heard they banned students talking out of turn also.

    Next thing you know they'll be evaluating students with "grades" and training them how to perform tasks and learn concepts.

    ZOMGS WHAT HAVE OUR SKOOLS COME TO!

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  13. trueroxfan

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    Government enforced dress code doesn't bother me as long as they don't require the purchase of anything.

    It's the food that bothers me. If school is a requirement you can't force people to pay for anything. You can't force a kid to purchase a meal if his meal doesn't fit the required nutrition. It doesn't matter if it is the state's dime, the state's rules. It is the citizen's tax money, and it is a public institution. A private school can do these kinds of things, not a public school.

    Again, the dress code doesn't bother me so much. They banned sandals at my school because too many people were falling down the stairs when people accidentally stepped on the back of their sandals. However, to me it seems a little ridiculous. Why do you put your phone in your boot? You have a backpack that you carry around everywhere. You also have pockets...turn the sucker off and go to class.

    If it goes off in class, punish the kid. Don't throw the kid in detention or suspend him, or do anything that hinders his education. Force him to read and summarize the encyclopedia for an hour or something.

    Phones weren't really a problem at my school. Everyone had them (except me, I got mine sophomore year of HS), but no one really used them in class. If they did they didn't get caught.

    Wish we would stop worrying about clothing and food and start worrying about the education which is God awful.
     
  14. Kyrodis

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    I don't understand why you even have a problem with this Hightop. If some government at the local level wants to institute what you believe is "stupid" regulation, then it's their right to do so.

    Likewise, it's your right to disagree and not send your children to that particular school or move elsewhere. Even your beloved Ron Paul has said so himself.
     
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    Somebody hates Tom Brady.
     
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    Problem on a local level was solved at a local level. No issue here.
     
  17. Dairy Ashford

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    This is especially troubling in light of their having banned long johns and wool socks, and holding all classes outdoors.
     

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