[ESPN] Howard destinations, Houston mentioned as facilitator

Those numbers aren't massive changes. They are more of an indication of Bynum's emergence than Gasol's decline.

 

I'm not buying into this. No real drop from 09-10 to 10-11. This year a slight drop if any. Much of this could be attributed to the improved play of Bynum in addition to a new coach and system in LA. Furthermore, this condensed season could skew the numbers in either direction.

 

Pointless to get Gasol now. No Nene, no Lin to replace Dragic, no Hayes.

 

Respectfully disagree. And Lin was never thought to be replacing Dragic. Morey even tweeted that nobody knew Lin was capable of this.

Daryl Morey @dmorey
We should have kept @jlin7.Did not know he was this good.Anyone who says they knew misleading U RT @trane711 Just accept the @jlin7 mistake

 

now you're talking. these numbers don't lie ...but the decline appears to be minimal. It's probably fair to say he's peaked, but the decline is not dramatic.

 

We didn't keep him because we ended up keeping Dragic (trade got Stern'd). If the trade had gone through as planned, we would have kept Lin. You don't really believe they were going to let Flynn handle backup PG duties did you?

 

Gasol is better than Scola .... and Martin. The Rockets get a better player than they currently have on their roster.


But you really have to ask yourself is he a star or a complimentary player. That answer is quite simple , he's a complimentary piece to Kobe.

Is he going to help lure a Batman to his Robin to the Rockets ? I have my doubts there as he's generally labled as soft ....

How is he going to react having to be "The Man?" If last years playoff flop is any indication of how he will react to that pressure .....


Is he worth 3 years $57m of your cap space.

Is he going to continue to produce at a similar level over that timespan and earn that $57m or .... will you be stuck with a horrible contract for the production.


Scola's numbers are comparable tho Gasol is the better defender .... but at double the cost for a player the same age as the guy most here think is past his prime and want to ship out so the team isnt saddled with his contract ?


Sure , this deal gives the Rockets "A better player" but it also strips the team of its depth at both SG and PG while sending the best player in the trade to a rival who in the process sheds significant cap space going forward and gains a valuable draft pick and two young players.


Martin and Scola for Gasol straight up , sure I do it. But Im not willing to throw in Dragic , Parsons and the NY pick too .... This whole trade helps the rich get richer .... expecially in shedding $57m in cap space.

Rather than sending Parsons and Dragic out ,how about find a third team willing to move a PG instead. Let the Lakers deal with the Magic seperately rather than helping them land Howard.

 

Is Scola worth $9 mil to us for these next 3 years?

Is Kevin "I think I'll mentally check out now" Martin worth $12 mil this and next year, when he doesn't want to be here, and won't stay because he's been trade bait the moment he got here?

Gasol's numbers don't look gaudy right now but his PER is very high. Put him in our lineup and I think he'd thrive.

Besides, I'm sick of watching Scola allowing the other team's layup drills, and Martin sometimes care and sometimes not.

 

Translation: If we hadn't gotten Stern'd

Lowry/Lin
Lee/Morris
Parsons/Budinger
Gasol/Patterson
Nene/Hill

#Linning

 

When we made the 3 team deal, Lin was still on the Warriors. Trade was December 8 and Lin wasn't cut by GSW until December 9.

 

I think he has peaked, and therefore is in decline (not steep...yet), and would take it a step further and see he's no longer a viable #1 option for a team looking to go somewhere. Especially with the way he can go into funks (playoff series vs Dallas), and his contract being roughly 1/3rd of the salary cap.

PPG:
Peak (06-07): 20.8
Career: 18.7
2011 Postseason: 13.1
11-12 Season: 16.7

RPG:
Peak (09-10): 11.3
Career: 9.2
2011 Postseason: 7.8
11-12 Season: 10.5

FTA (best metric for aggressive play near the rim for a PF or C):
Peak (05-06): 7.7
Career: 6.1
2011 Postseason: 4.5
11-12 Season: 3.6

Blocks:
Peak (06-07): 2.1
Career: 1.7
2011 Postseason: 1.7
11-12 Season: 1.3

 

And sorry to double post, but I do believe that Flynn was going to be the backup at the time the three way trade went down. Not saying it would have been a good decision. Maybe Morey had something else planned. Just my opinion.

 

Good point, but that would have been all the more reason to pick him up. Rockets have a history of having only one backup PG, something that has hurt this team before.

plus, there is no such thing as #flynning

 

Capspace is only relevant if not having it is what is preventing players from coming here.

This is not the case with the Rockets. Having the means to get players here was never the problem, its players wanting to be here.

 

Take out Dragic Johnson and Chandler Bang and it is a deal.

 

Agreed, but that doesn't change the fact that Morey probably wasn't considering Lin at all when making the Gasol trade since he was on another roster.

 

Like I said , I dont have a problem moving Scola & Martin for Gasol - Its "all those other assets" - Dragic , Parsons , NY Pick - that break the deal for me.


I'd be looking for a 3rd team to get involved that would send LA a PG and take Martin in return , sending Scola to LA and Pau to Houston.
Basically the same deal that Morey made to get Gasol the first time with NO.

Dragic , Parsons , NY pick along with Martin and Scola , the price is just too steep.

 

No way marcus would play the 2, ever...but in your hypothetical trade budinger slides in fine at the 2 while marcus would play the 3.

 

Lazy excuse, Patterson is a better defender, but it's still a layup drill when he's in instead. That won't change until the Rockets get a space eating center.

 

You forgot Chuck. We would have re-signed him if the deal had gone through without a hitch.

Chuck/Gasol/Nene frontline would be beastly on defensive, and have 3 great interior passing big men to run the offensive through (you know McHale would have loved that)