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State Agent Inspects Sack Lunches, Forces Preschoolers to Buy Cafeteria Food

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  1. Hightop

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    There is no food police.



    http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/display_exclusive.html?id=8762

    State agent inspects sack lunches, forces preschoolers to purchase cafeteria food instead

    Feb. 14th, 2012

    RAEFORD — A preschooler at West Hoke Elementary School ate three chicken nuggets for lunch Jan. 30 because a state employee told her the lunch her mother packed was not nutritious.

    The girl’s turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, potato chips, and apple juice did not meet U.S. Department of Agriculture guidelines, according to the interpretation of the agent who was inspecting all lunch boxes in her More at Four classroom that day.

    The Division of Child Development and Early Education at the Department of Health and Human Services requires all lunches served in pre-kindergarten programs — including in-home day care centers — to meet USDA guidelines. That means lunches must consist of one serving of meat, one serving of milk, one serving of grain, and two servings of fruit or vegetables, even if the lunches are brought from home.

    When home-packed lunches do not include all of the required items, child care providers must supplement them with the missing ones.

    The girl’s mother — who said she wishes to remain anonymous to protect her daughter from retaliation — said she received a note from the school stating that students who did not bring a “healthy lunch” would be offered the missing portions, which could result in a fee from the cafeteria, in her case $1.25.

    “I don't feel that I should pay for a cafeteria lunch when I provide lunch for her from home,” the mother wrote in a complaint to her state representative, Republican G.L. Pridgen of Robeson County.

    The girl’s grandmother, who sometimes helps pack her lunch, told Carolina Journal that she is a petite, picky 4-year-old who eats white whole wheat bread and is not big on vegetables.

    “What got me so mad is, number one, don’t tell my kid I’m not packing her lunch box properly,” the girl’s mother told CJ. “I pack her lunchbox according to what she eats. It always consists of a fruit. It never consists of a vegetable. She eats vegetables at home because I have to watch her because she doesn’t really care for vegetables.”

    When the girl came home with her lunch untouched, her mother wanted to know what she ate instead. Three chicken nuggets, the girl answered. Everything else on her cafeteria tray went to waste.

    “She came home with her whole sandwich I had packed, because she chose to eat the nuggets on the lunch tray, because they put it in front of her,” her mother said. “You’re telling a 4-year-old. ‘oh. you’re lunch isn’t right,’ and she’s thinking there’s something wrong with her food.”

    While the mother and grandmother thought the potato chips and lack of vegetable were what disqualified the lunch, a spokeswoman for the Division of Child Development said that should not have been a problem.

    “With a turkey sandwich, that covers your protein, your grain, and if it had cheese on it, that’s the dairy,” said Jani Kozlowski, the fiscal and statutory policy manager for the division. “It sounds like the lunch itself would’ve met all of the standard.” The lunch has to include a fruit or vegetable, but not both, she said.

    There are no clear restrictions about what additional items — like potato chips — can be included in preschoolers’ lunch boxes.

    “If a parent sends their child with a Coke and a Twinkie, the child care provider is going to need to provide a balanced lunch for the child,” Kozlowski said.

    Ultimately, the child care provider can’t take the Coke and Twinkie away from the child, but Kozlowski said she “would think the Pre-K provider would talk with the parent about that not being a healthy choice for their child.”

    It is unclear whether the school was allowed to charge for the cafeteria lunches they gave to every preschooler in the class that day.

    The state regulation reads:

    “Sites must provide breakfast and/or snacks and lunch meeting USDA requirements during the regular school day. The partial/full cost of meals may be charged when families do not qualify for free/reduced price meals.

    “When children bring their own food for meals and snacks to the center, if the food does not meet the specified nutritional requirements, the center must provide additional food necessary to meet those requirements.”

    Still, Kozlowski said, the parents shouldn’t have been charged.

    “The school may have interpreted [the rule] to mean they felt like the lunch wasn’t meeting the nutritional requirements and so they wanted the child to have the school lunch and then charged the parent,” she said. “It sounds like maybe a technical assistance need for that school.”

    The school principal, Jackie Samuels, said he didn’t “know anything about” parents being charged for the meals that day. “I know they eat in the cafeteria. Whether they pay or not, they eat in the cafeteria.”

    Pridgen’s office is looking into the issue.

    Sara Burrows is an associate editor of Carolina Journal.
     
  2. Classic

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    Just another example of overreaching.

    Provide good food for kids at schools and ban outside junk foods, which have a measurable negative effect on their education.

    Or if that doesn't work, ban outside food altogether, short of certain instances/waivers, etc.

    There's sensible regulation that can be implemented, this isn't it though.
     
  4. Bandwagoner

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    Liberals : Food :: Conservatives : Sex
     
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    Except that here we're talking about a public service, and children's diets have a measured effect on their education and the experiences of those around them.

    If you want to go to public school and learn on my dime, I'm fine with banning kids from eating crap while they're there.

    If you had to go to a publicly supported brothel to get laid, then I'd also probably want to have my say in what goes on there too.
     
  6. Major

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    This is an excellent example of states' rights in action. :)
     
  7. Ziggy

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    Man, I never comment in the D&D but this one really grinds my gears. Meanwhile, over in the Hangout you have a girl that eats only chicken nuggets. Sigh.
     
  8. glynch

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    Hightop, Please cite the libertarian/whacko conservo site that sends you your daily non-story used to pump up the cult.
     
  9. Classic

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    USDA requirements?
     
  10. Depressio

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    Personally, I think it's silly. Sometimes people take things way too literally. The kid's lunch sounds just fine, and the enforcer guy is being a bit ridiculous. Now if the mom had packed a Coke and a Twinkie, as suggested by example, then yes, they should supply the child with something better.
     
  11. Bandwagoner

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    too many problems with that argument in the real world. Namely, most school lunches are complete garbage.
     
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    Not quite...

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    We police how kids behave and plenty of other things they can have in school (which is kind of the point, learning habits and behaviors), this shouldn't be a problem.

    Arguing that school lunches suck isn't a valid reason to not regulate food in public schools, it's a reason to make lunches not suck.
     
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    Oops, re-posted comment. Guess I hit reply instead of edit.

    Now, where's my delete?
     
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    Read it again - it's a state law that requires school lunches to conform to USDA guidelines.
     
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    Personally, I think you should be able to bring anything with you from home for lunch.
     
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    How was her meal not deemed acceptable?

    So with meat, dairy, grain, and 2 servings of fruit shouldn't she have all of her bases covered doesn't it? Funny how they also say one serving of meat must be included. What about vegetarians?
     
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  19. DonnyMost

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    Would you feel any differently if presented with evidence showing how required proper nutrition and exercise in school increases the effectiveness of schools all around?
     
  20. kyle_R

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    Figured that was a given even without looking up research papers on the subject. I don't have any kids but I can see some parents wanting to be in control of what their kids bring to lunch everyday.
     

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